All things given to us

FutureAndAHope

2Pe 1:3 "His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through the full knowledge of the one who called us by his own glory and excellence".

It is my concern having read some post here that too much faith is put in the Groverning Body of the Jehovahs Witnesses. The bible says that a believer has everything needed for life and godliness, through the direct revelation of God. People don't need too have people to govern their lives, as God is the one who governs.

Mans opinions are not always correct, only God is a refuge. God's hand is not too short that it can not save. He does not need people to control our lives, his revelation should be our guide.

steve2

Oh dear another well-intentioned preacher joins the forum intent on sharing his variant of the "truth" (yes, yes, I know you are "simply" sharing what is in the Bible. . Thank you but no thank you for your pedestrian preaching. And you might want to close the book of Judges on your way out - it is an embarassment to Bible-believers with its zesty endorsement of God-directed genocide.

jookbeard

on the contrary F&H I think you'll find 99.9% here have no hope of The GB of JW's aiding mankind in any way shape or form, in a few decades they will cease to exist.

vangogh

Hello everyone, this is my first posting, so hope i'v done this correctly. I have been reading the posts and following various subjects that are being discussed. I maybe should have written down what I was going to say first before I posted so that it would have been easier to follow and understand but here goes anyway. I am coming up 60y old and have just now managed to get over the personal mental trauma that the WTBS was responsible for causing in my life and so many others worldwide in those years in the late 1960's and early 70's. The 'Society' and other newer witnesses and those that were there at that time can deny everything and say that it was just the brothers themselves that were at fault for taking too much out of what the Society was actualy saying, or it was a test.. NO!!!. Everything that was said in those years, in the Kingdom Halls and conventions regarding the impending 'Battle of Armageddon' was all backed up scripture, ( a text, without context, is just a pretext for anything you want it to mean). Its true that the Society did'nt cross t's and dot i's in their prophecy of 1975 but they did prophecy it. In those years I, like so many others gave up our further education so that we could learn trades, carpenters were especially wanted 'to build the log cabins ' that were going to be needed after the destruction and desolation that was was going to come very shortly . 'in those few remaining months'. No wonder that in the Watchtower cd library those Awake magazines of those years cant be seen. I'm sorry, as I said I should have written this all out first because even as I write this ,the awful atmosphere and feeling of those days are coming back to me, I had much more to write but I know all those reading this that were effected as I was will know the feeling im talking about. I want to finally say this, that after all these years I have been able to step back and actualy see 'forest' because I had been standing amost the trees. There is a scripture that is in Deuteronomy that I know that most of you will know but it is very clear and when I read it now I get so tearful, tearful, because it is so clear and why o why did'nt i see it so clearly before now. Deuteronomy 18 vs 22

Lozhasleft

Futureandahope - Interesting thoughts. I agree that the only mediator we need is Christ. Don't be discouraged by the number of atheist response on here, there are still also many believers.

vangogh - Weclome to the forum, you might want to start your own thread, under the Private Members category? And in the header mention you're new? There is a lot of support here so you'll benefit that way.

Loz x

Heartofaboy

I'm the same age group as you vangogh like many others on this forum I know EXACTLY what you mean.

Luckily my whole family, all in since the late 1950's, are seeing the error of the 'false prophet' organisation called the WBTS.

Freedom at last from their oppression & thought control.

WTWizard

I will say that God's hand is not so short that he cannot do good for everyone, including letting me in with the opposite sex. Which is all the more reason why Jehovah's unwillingness to do this is all the more inexcusable. Worse, Jehovah won't even let Satan and Astaroth do it for him. Refuge? I believe they made a typo and it should read "God is our refuse". As in, rubbish.

vangogh

many thanks Loz for the welcome, thanks too, Heart. I never was baptised because even, though I was in my early teens at the time, i had so many questions to ask at the hall that no one would answer. Back then,before there were elders, there was the overseer who, when I asked a question would reply, 'Go look at this or that watchtower or awake and you will find the correct answer to your question', he really was an 'automaton' in his view and so many countless others, the WTBS was Gods channel and its still veiwed as such today . ('The only way to the Father is through me' Jesus said). At conventions when on the platform there was often a display of vegetables and fruit of all kinds and also the pile of watchtower publications , of course, this was to represent the food that we need to live then the spiritual food that God provided for us. I often got into trouble in my teens for asking, 'if God provided us with the spiritual food, and it was 'The Truth' how could it possibly become 'old light'later on, how can the truth , if it is true and provided by God, how can it change?. Of course the usual answer is 'the light gets brighter' , I just dont know why others cant see all the nonsense of it. ,anyway, i'v vented enough, lol , thanks again Loz for the welcome.

tec

I don't think the people here give much credit to the GB, but you are right in that there is too much leaning upon them (or other religious leaders in other religions), and not enough leaning upon Christ. As Loz said, Christ is the mediator between man and God. We do not need another mediator between man and Christ.

Also welcome, Vangogh.

Peace,

tammy

Honeybucket

Howdy and WelcomeS

I am so happy to see those who actually want to get over their mental ailment the WTS inflicted. Reading is the easy part, posting is the hard part. Im glad you took that step. I agree with you 100%, why cant people see through all the crap. Is it because they dont want to? When something is so deeply ingrained in someone, the possibility of the opposite is inconceiveable. Think outside the box! PLEASE! Just mind control and brain washing at its best... do they even do that good of a job at it?

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