selfish flock syndrome

by stillin 10 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • stillin
    stillin

    a study was recently conducted with sheep outfitted with transmitters. A "predator" was circling the flock and the researchers found that the sheep tended to shove the weaker ones to the outer fringes and the stronger ones went to the center. Real nice...

    Boy, I could have used that while I was giving public talks! I don't know how many times I've heard the uber-righteous drone on about the safest place being at the center of the flock, busy in the "lord's work."

    The study didn't mention the protecting of the baby sheep at the center. Do they really do that? The Witnesses sure haven't been! Just ask Ms Conti!

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    A "predator" was circling the flock and the researchers found that the sheep tended to shove the weaker ones to the outer fringes. . .

    JWs shoot sacrifice their wounded.

    Doc

  • blondie
    blondie

    *** w02 3/1 p. 16 How Precious Is the Truth to You? ***

    Caring for Ourselves Spiritually

    12 Our marriage mate or our parents can encourage us in the way of the truth. Likewise, congregation elders can shepherd us as part of the flock under their care. (Acts 20:28) But where does the ultimate responsibility lie if we are to persevere in our way of life based on the truth? Really, the responsibility rests with each one of us. And that is true both under normal circumstances and in difficult times. Consider the following incident.

    13 In Scotland some young lambs were grazing in a pasture when one of them strayed to the side of a hillock and tumbled onto a ledge below. It was uninjured, but it was frightened and unable to climb back. So it started to bleat plaintively. Its mother heard it, and she too began to bleat until the shepherd came and retrieved the young lamb.

    14 Notice the sequence of events. The lamb called for help, the ewe added her voice to its cries, and the alerted shepherd sprang into action to rescue it. If a very young animal and its mother can sense danger and immediately call for help, should we not do the same when we stumble spiritually or face unexpected dangers from Satan’s world? (James 5:14, 15; 1 Peter 5:8) We should, especially if we are lacking in experience either because we are young or because we are relatively new in the truth.

    NOT

    (Matthew 18:12-14) 12 “What do YOU think? If a certain man comes to have a hundred sheep and one of them gets strayed, will he not leave the ninety-nine upon the mountains and set out on a search for the one that is straying? 13 And if he happens to find it, I certainly tell YOU, he rejoices more over it than over the ninety-nine that have not strayed. 14 Likewise it is not a desirable thing with my Father who is in heaven for one of these little ones to perish.

    -----------------

    So the sheep have to call out, the shepherd does not have to know one strayed and go looking for it?

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Desirous of Change - "JWs shoot sacrifice their wounded."

    All authoritarian high-control groups do; it's one of their defining characteristics.

    I find it interesting that most fundagelical Christian churches refers to their memberships as "sheep"...

    Sheep cull the weak, and sacrifice them to predators in preferance of the overall herd.

    Sheep sometimes strip an area bare of virtually all edible vegetation and then simply move on.

    Sheep are protected by shepherds...

    ...until they are inevitably sheared and/or butchered and eaten.

    Except for males, which get to do whatever they want (to whichever female they want), as long as they stay inside the fence.

    Hell, it seems the top predators of the world (eagles, wolves, lions, etc.) take better care of each other than sheep.

  • stillin
    stillin

    What concerns me is that if the flock doesn't seem to even HAVE any weak ones, they will have to CREATE some! What's the point of being in the center if you aren't sacrificing somebody?

  • happy@last
    happy@last

    The closer to the centre you get the smaller the circle becomes, in the centre its easier to have the wool pulled over your eyes.

  • eva luna
    eva luna

    Interesting stillin. Bolindie good quotes. Good comments.

    I had a goat for a weed eater. A friend gave her to me and she came with her baby.

    Man was she protective of her little one. She actually butted me in the butt as I walked to my car. So I started to run to my car . She would junp on the hood scratch it up and glare at me until I stated the engion.

    Sounds like in the animal world there are much better mothers than sheep. Wolves make better parents with the pack. Elephants too.

    I always thought this parrable was a little weird, But it supports the need of a sheperd, and thats the crux of the matter. Were too stupid. Tell me what to do...help!

    As a kid I studied wolves, thought I would rather be a wolf than a sheep. Wolves always got a bad rap.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    All it really takes is an observation into any congregation. The "weak", those who aren't wealthy, charismatic or have half their family appointed, are left out spiritually and socially. They have to fend for themselves because all they can expect is to go on and be well fed, on their own.

    I had a friend years back draw a graph of how it's supposed to be. Weak ones in the center and stronger ones to the outside with a pareimater of elders around it. Then he drew a 2nd graph with the opposite. The elders in the middle and the weak ones on the outside. Then he sent it to NY.

    He got a response. To tear up the graph and to show it to no one

  • blondie
    blondie

    What I see as a problem, is most elders have never taken care of sheep, or any animal. Many leave the child rearing to their wives. So this illustration has no meaning to them, they have no experience of responsibility for protecting their lives. A recent WT study article showed how many elders neglect their wives and their children to take care of administrative duties for the WTS; with their family stumbling "spiritually." The few elders who do care, get dumped on and burn out as the other elders pursue their recreation and finances.

    I would recommend finding a good counselor. If you are in college, many provide that at a minimal cost. But don't expect jws to keep your confidence. Their lives are so boring that they spice it up by telling your problems to others under the guise of "helping." Women and children are not valued in the WTS. The focus is on men, and having them "reach out."

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    'dubs gossip? Say it isn't so

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