Do JWs Still Feel The Need To Understand Their Teachings Or Have They Pretty Much Abandoned That Idea?

by minimus 42 Replies latest jw friends

  • minimus
    minimus

    I think MOST JWs do not know how to EXPLAIN their religious beliefs.

    I don't think they could explain their views of 607 b.c.e. , 1914, any prophetic Bible books, the old vs. the new FDS understanding, the blood fraction reasoning, etc.

    Do you think the average Witness is able to explain from the Bible why they believe things as they do?

  • ruderedhead
    ruderedhead

    I think some can as long as they have the WT literature to read from. I knew jw's who knew just what book they needed to read out of to "prove" their point. Not the Bible. either. It is used only to point to certain scriptures (quoted in the WT book they are using) to help them validate what they are saying. Still doesn't make sense if you read the Bible. Doesn't mean they understand the doctrine, just that they know how to use WT literature to prove their point. Esp. if they are a devout born-in, or have loads of time to study the societys books. Without thinking about what they are reading, and doing independent research, of course.

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    I can honestly tell you that I never knew a single one of the JWs who could recite the whole derivation of the 1914 date without a reference book.

    I knew VERY VERY few who would even try to exaplain it WITH a reference book - and most of them got the official JW story wrong anyway.

    Do you remember the Tuesday Night study when they went through the red Babylon the Great has Fallen book?

    It was ludicrous - NOBODY understood a single thing from that book.

    They just went through it because they were going through the motions.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Yep, going through the motions, or swimming through the turds.

    I too doubt that 1% of JW's could make a good fist of explaining their doctrines, they rely on the old "I will go and research that for you and return with the answer" , and of course they never come back, they just hope Bro Capable as they think of him, will call on you next, his real name is Billy Bulls**t so he will do the same.

    The very old school ones, in for many decades and now in their seventies or older might have a go, but you find with them that they are not up to speed with the latest bollocks, so they are no fun to spar with, you end up trying to convince them they need to go and read some later WT stuff and they think you do not know what you are on about.

    Yes the R&F have given up, wouldn't you ?

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    The usual explanation for things that were just plain inconprehensible because they were so illogical was this:

    "Those are VERY DEEP spiritual things and only the VERY SPIRITUAL people can understand them"

    Yeah - sure. Very deep how the Bible (which never mentions a single date) can absolutely teach without question that Jesus began ruling invisibly in 1914.

  • minimus
    minimus

    haha jc ruled in 1914....so funny

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    Not only funny, Minimus - barking at the moon crazy-dog MAD.

    But you could easily be disfellowshipped if you express disbelief in it in public.

  • MrFreeze
    MrFreeze

    JW's don't have to understand. If they are in field circus and someone questions them, they pull out the reasoning book and the WT tells them what they believe.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Protection/maintenance of "status" is more important than understanding the current dogma.

    It doesn't really matter *what* the doctrine is, so long as you profess to believe it as The Truth.

  • minimus
    minimus

    Some of the reasoning book is out of date.

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