The 1919 Date

by turtleturtle 47 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • cedars
    cedars

    Vidqun

    They must please explain how 3 1/2 days = 9 months.

    You've summed up the whole 1919 issue perfectly.

    Cedars

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    Thanks for the quote Jeffro.

    The reasoning is so disjointed. The Scripture uses 1260 days and 3.5 days. WTS says 1260 days is literal, but 3.5 days is figurative of a short period of time. Yet whilst 1260 days=42 months, the WTS says 3.5 days=9 months. 9 months is not a short period of time when compared to 42 months. Whilst 3.5/1260 is 0.28%, 9/42=21%. There comparison is out by a factor of 75.

    The Watchtower leaders are so conceited. Rev 11:11 says " But after the three and a half days the breath [b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them." As if it struck terror into people when Rutherford was released from prison. I doubt anyone but a couple of clergymen behind his imprisonment gave him more than a second thought.

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    and terror struck those who saw them

    Hahahahaha. That's what they would LIKE to think!

    JW Mythology and Lies.

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro
    The reasoning is so disjointed. The Scripture uses 1260 days and 3.5 days. WTS says 1260 days is literal, but 3.5 days is figurative of a short period of time. Yet whilst 1260 days=42 months, the WTS says 3.5 days=9 months. 9 months is not a short period of time when compared to 42 months. Whilst 3.5/1260 is 0.28%, 9/42=21%. There comparison is out by a factor of 75.

    On top of that, three and a half is fairly specific if it's meant to just represent 'a short period of time'.

    3.5 days is reminiscent of (but I am not saying they are related to) 'the half of the week' (3.5 days/3.5 years) at Daniel 9:27 as well as the 'time and times and half a time' (3.5 times) at Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 12:14. If they so desired, the WTS cronies could associate the 3.5 days with any of those periods.

  • Ding
    Ding

    Rutherford pulled 1919 out of the air in order to supplant Russell, who died in 1916.

    He was trying to overcome the Bible Students' reluctance to accept his addition to Russell's "Studies in the Scriptures", The Finished Mystery (1918).

    What better way than to claim that Jesus inspected everything invisibly in 1919, approved it, and put the now Rutherford-led organization in charge of all of Jehovah's affairs on earth?

    As WT history has demonstrated, it's not hard to make dates seem biblical.

    The first method is to add various numbers in the Bible, claiming that parallels and types somehow relate them prophetically.

    You may have to tie them to some supposed date from secular history, such as the fall of Jerusalem in 606 BCE (as they did with 1914).

    If you need to change the calculation because you inexplicably forgot that there was no year 0, you just change the supposed date of the fall of Jerusalem from 606 BCE to 607 BCE.

    When critics scoff at this manipulation, you claim persecution.

    Problem solved.

    If you can't get the date you want by doing that, you just claim that Jehovah revealed the date to you and keep saying it until your people stop asking how you arrived at it and start parroting it as "the truth" being fed to them by "the slave."

    How do you handle followers who won't buy into all this?

    You brand them as apostates and disfellowship them.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    The WTS. and its editorial leaders have always spin up their own doctrines to create the appearance forwarded to the public

    that yes indeed god did choose us over all other religions.

    Its a game that most religions are involved in, in one way are another and of which has assuming more importance to the WTS. because this

    religion is fronted by a publishing house.

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro

    Finkelstein:

    because this religion is fronted by a publishing house.

    Isn't it the other way around?

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Isn't it the other way around?

    I lean more to the other direction since it was started by a professional salesman, not a by a professional bible theologian.

    but I get your point though.

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