IN HINDSIGHT.................

by Black Man 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • Black Man
    Black Man

    Now that I've been away from the cult going on 4 years, one HUGE absurdity that sticks out in my mind is that we were doing things out of service to an INVISIBLE KING. Let me repeat an INVISIBLE KING, whose only proof that he existed was through a global public relations magazine distribution campaign. No visible show of this king's sovreignty, no activity by this king to act on his campaign platform. No..........the only active thing to show that this king existed was you and me going from door to door trying to harass people into accepting magazines annoucing the fact that this king was ruling. ISN'T THE WHOLE POINT OF RULING TO SHOW THAT THERE IS SOME VISIBLE MEANS OF AUTHORITY??

    And to think this KING has been ruling for nearly 100 years??!! And still NOTHING done by this KING to positively impact the world for the better...or worse (for that matter). In any given scenario, you would have had impeachment or a takeover or removal of this king due to inactivity, lack of getting things done. Right?

    Now that I think about it, that may not be the most ABSURD thing looking back at the JWs in HINDSIGHT. After all, the fate of the universe and reality as we know it was determined based on the actions of 2 naked people, a talking snake and a piece of fruit.

    What absurdities stand out to you now that you've left the MADNESS??

  • bats in the belfry
    bats in the belfry
    And to think this KING has been ruling for nearly 100 years??!! And still NOTHING done by this KING to positively impact the world for the better...or worse (for that matter).

    Rumors have it Alcyone has been brighter in the skies for some decades now!

  • designs
    designs

    Apparently you are not privi to the many miracles that occur in the JW world. God routinely allows for the murder of a good JW and then provides the search party with good weather to find the body.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    So true. A person would expect an embassy w a shakina light, or something. Guess the wt would claim the ny complex is that. BUT, there is no shakina there, no angels and no flaming swords, not even an ark of a new covenant, nothing except a bunch of drone bees slogging back and forth in the hallways and pencil pushers in the offices. It's the same as in any other corporation, except that they get paid less. No spirit type king or signs of any kingdom of a spiritual nature.

    S

  • Theocratic Sedition
    Theocratic Sedition
    What absurdities stand out to you now that you've left the MADNESS??

    One fairly recent event has me looking at the blood policy doctrine differently. I've got a significantly older and ill relative who I don't expect to live that much longer after being discharged from the hospital a few months back. She had been ill for about a month prior to the paramedics taking her to the ER where she was admitted and surgery was performed the following morning. She had been nauseous, vomiting, complaining of stomach woes, etc.. The day the paramedics came, she had been vomiting a green bile that smelled like excrement from what was relayed to me. So they did a CT Scan on her and discovered that not all was well in her intestines as it appeared one was crimped shut. After opening her the surgeons discovered a cancer mass which they were able to remove and she now has a colonoscopy bag. At her age they prefer her to remain with the bag rather than attempting to seal the intestine as there's the possibility of a leak and at her age that could prove to be fatal considering the increased possibility of an infection.

    Here's the part that has me viewing the blood policy differently. I've never been able to wrap my head around the no blood doctrine as it's apples and oranges comparing blood transfusions in the modern age to the dietary prohibitions of first century Christians. After waking up and realizing that this religion has a lot of things wrong, I viewed the no blood doctrine as the WT overstepping their boundaries and creating dangerous situations that need not be for individual JWs and their families. After this most recent even with my relative however, I now view the no blood doctrine as one of the stupidest thing I've ever been privy to, and here's why. I visited my relative in the ER and hung out for a couple hours. One of the surgeons came back to tell all of us what they wanted to do but need the ok from their boss. They went over what to expect after it was all said and done. After he walked out of the room leaving us to chew on what was said, my relative says almost in a revelation type state, "What about blood?!?!?!? I don't do no blood!!" So her daughter said she'd address it when the surgeon came back. When I went home later that evening after pulling up at a light I thought to myself just how stupid all of this is. So you're concerned that Jehovah is going to hold it against you if you recieve a blood transfusion, but at the same time He's MIA when you're vomiting orally what should be processed and discharged rectally, but you can't because you've got intestinal cancer? Utterly stupid in recent hindsight.

    On another note, when my aunt relayed to the surgeon their concerns about blood he reassured them stating that he and their surgical team respect their beliefs and wishes and didn't believe there would be major blood loss during the surgery. He also relayed to us that nothing is certain and inquired if plasma would be acceptable which my aunt stated, no. What he said next I found interesting. He stated that in his experience in dealing with JWs, 3 out of every 5 end up accepting a blood transfusion upon knocking at death's gate. I could tell when he was speaking with us that he and the female surgeon accompanying him thought all of us were nuts. He did his best to keep a poker face and did a good job, but you could tell he thinks JWs are crazy.

  • Theocratic Sedition
    Theocratic Sedition

    Another thing too in hindsight that I find completely retarded is the encouragement to "make Jehovah real." How are you going to make someone real? They either exist or they don't but you can't make them exist any more than you can make exist the Lochness Monster. C'mon!!!

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice
    What absurdities stand out to you now that you've left the MADNESS??

    JW's do no works to REALLY help the needy. Perhaps individual JWs help but the WBT$ discourages giving money to anyone but themselves.

    The INVISIBLE KING never once helped me in MY life EVER!

    I prayed. I waited. Nothing! Nada! Zip!

    When I got help it was from people. When I worked things out I did it myself. As Bart Simpson prayed over dinner: 'We bought all this stuff ourselves, so thanks for nothing!'

    If the INVISIBLE KING exists he's taking the pi$$ or is he 'overlapping'(TM) or something?

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Apparently you are not privi to the many miracles that occur in the JW world. God routinely allows for the murder of a good JW and then provides the search party with good weather to find the body.

    But CEDARS, didn't you see where it helped the local community conclude that "God is with you people"?

    And didn't you hear of all the new interest in Bible Studies?

    Clearly, there will be many baptisms at the next couple of Circuit Assemblies.

    Doc

  • LostGeneration
    LostGeneration

    The invisible King thing is a pretty good one, especially when you hear in a Public Talk or in the literature that "the nations have not submitted themselves to Jesus rule". Ummmmm, yeah - would love to see a president or prime minister call everyone together with the idea that its time to give it all up for Jesus, because he's been ruling since 1914.

    As to your question, what really bothers me in hindsight is the absolute lie that they believe "lives are at stake" in these supposed last days.

    So why use the most archaic and utterly ineffective way of proclaiming that people are in danger? They have millions at their disposal to use on modern methods like TV, internet and radio. But no, they need people to drive around wasting gas for 70 hours each month knocking on empty houses.

    Its because they don't really want people to understand what they are teaching on a widespread basis. They pick them off one at a time and slowly brainwash them, because nobody would accept shit like an invisible king sitting up there for 100 years if they shouted it from the rooftops.

  • moshe
    moshe

    When JWs get into a bind and need charity, who fixes things up for them? Jehovah's kingdom or caesar's social safety net?- can you find a WT soup kitchen, homeless shelter or WT medical center (funded by them)- no, nowhere to be seen. I wonder how many JWs are on food stamps and medicade?- living in section8 reduced rent apartents and getting an SSi check?

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