PONDER THAT sometime in the still hours before sunrise.....

Terry

Jehovah's Witnesses are taught that they are engaged in a LIFE-SAVING work

In the Louvre is a special vault with 15 miles of shelves containing medical treatises, cures, treatments, speculations, procedures from time immemorial. Now the fascinating aspect of all these state-of-the-art manuals and documents is that they are scientifically BOGUS!

Without the germ theory of disease, without x-rays or MRI's, without the microscope---the finest hypothetical "modern" treatments were crap.

Most were dangerous or deadly!

The vaults in the Louvre memorialize man's energetic and ambitious failures while clawing his way out of the darkness of ignorance toward life-saving data supremely useful and predictably safe.

Human knowledge is gradual, incremental and faltering.

Yet, how elegantly these medical texts mirror the blind efforts of the Watchtower's Governing Body as they "channeled" Jehovah's directives

for LIFE-SAVING texts enthusiastically peddled door to door!

How embarrassingly non-divine

All those clarion toxin bells ringing out Armageddon storm warnings through the early 1900's on up through the 60's and 70's and the abjectly

disastrous FLOP of 1975!

The Watchtower's thousands and thousands of books and magazines were exactly like those moldy and feckless medical books ensconced in the Louvre:

A testimony to what man thought he knew but really did not.

Are we really to admire all that for "meat in due season"? "Food at the proper time"?

Or, should we not immediately grasp what an F-ing waste of people's time it all was???

It amounted to not much more than the hubris of imaginative invention.

How many lives have Jehovah's Witnesses saved compared to how many have been lost due to their teachings?

PONDER THAT sometime in the still hours before sunrise......

James Brown

How many lives have Jehovah's Witnesses saved compared to how many have been lost due to their teachings?

PONDER THAT sometime in the still hours before sunrise......

I think more people have lost their lives than have saved them by Watchtower teachings.

Terry check your mail.

james_woods

We would not have chemistry (or nuclear physics) without alchemy, Terry.

You could make the case that the Wright Brothers could not have flown without previous failures by men like Lilenthal.

Sacrifices must be made. (Lilenthal's epitaph)

Terry

Organ transplants:

In 1967, the WTS said that organ transplants are a form of cannibalism and are to be shunned. 12 They reversed this decision in 1980 and made transplants a matter of personal conscience. 13 Unfortunately, an unknown number of Jehovah's Witnesses had died between 1967 and 1980 because they had refused available transplants.

Bone marrow transplants:

In 1963, they considered that any fraction of blood was a nutrient and not to be used in medical treatment. 14 In 1978, they reversed this decision for certain blood fractions used for the treatment of hemophiliacs. 15 In 1984, they declared that accepting a bone marrow transplant was up to the individual conscience.
References:

The following information sources were used to prepare and update the above essay. The hyperlinks are not necessarily still active today.

"Product description," Northfield Laboratories, at: http://www.northfieldlabs.com/
Annette Wells, "Church lets faithful opt for PolyHeme. Blood substitute's use an individual's choice," San Bernadino Sun, 2003-MAR-08, at: http://www.rickross.com/
"The Real Value of Blood," pp 10-12, Awake! magazine, 2006-AUG, Pages 10 to 12.
"What Are Hemoglobin-Based Oxygen Carriers?" Sidebar, Awake! magazine, 2006-AUG, Page 10
Article on organ transplants, Watch Tower, 1967-NOV-15.
Subsequent article on organ transplants, Watch Tower, 1980-MAR-15.
Article on blood fractions, Watch Tower, 1963-FEB-15.
Article on blood fractions for Hemophiliacs, Watch Tower, 1978-JUN-15.
Article on bone marrow transplants, Watch Tower, 1984-MAY-15.

List of previous teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses

Germs don't cause disease.

Aluminum cookware will poison you.

Prohibition laws against alcohol are the Devil's work

Olive oil will cure appendicitis

The strong desire to worship God is due to the shape of the brain!

The shape of a man's head determines his thinking ability.

Vaccination never prevented any disease and never will

There is no such thing as rabies

james_woods

Actually, I think they were right about the prohibition laws being the devil's work...

OK, seriously - of course I see where you are going with this thread.

No, they have no excuse for the many lives they have harmed or ended by their teachings.

Terry

We would not have chemistry (or nuclear physics) without alchemy, Terry.

Don't leave out the glaring fact that the Watchtower publishes under the auspices of DIVINE GUIDANCE. They claim they are THE TRUTH

and not the EVER-IMPROVING SPECULATION.

The GB uses the Authority of Jehovah's selection of themselves to promote these human speculations and crackpot ideas as MORE THAN SAFE.

Medical doctors carry insurance against Malpractice. A patient has redress of grievance.

Jehovah's Witnesses will kick you out on your bum if you complain.

I think that is an important consideration.

james_woods

They would have been more convincing (on Jehovah's divine medical guidance) if they had warned against the Thalidomide drug rather than aluminum cookware and polio vaccinations.

prologos

james wood " alchemy" good point. good topic. but alchemist were secretive. Chemistry, nuclear physics was not their goal. so how will advanced science in the religious, or "weltanschauung" (to use Einstein' term) sense come out our dicussions here, often not rising above sematics, the petty? appreciate all yor thoughts.

james_woods

james wood " alchemy" good point. good topic. but alchemist were secretive. Chemistry, nuclear physics was not their goal. so how will advanced science in the religious, or "weltanschauung" (to use Einstein' term) sense come out our dicussions here, often not rising above sematics, the petty? appreciate all yor thoughts.

That would be off topic here - I was just jazzing Terry a little. What Terry was saying is that the Watchtower has a terrible past record of wrong ideas for a group which claims divine intervention. And which is obviously true.

Terry

The ancients were looking for a way to convert lead into Gold.

Turns out they only had to change one little proton to that. Problem was the amount of energy it would take to bring that about:)

Ancient Egypt was called KHEM by the denizens. That is where we get the root for Chemistry.

All the above is off-topic, of course....

On topic:

I can't possibly imagine the folks writing those inane and dangerous articles for Golden Age, Awake! and Watchtower could actually think they

were channeling Jehovah's super-important Truth. It was so obviously crackpots indulging their taste for the bizarre and passing it off as

something refined, numinous and spiritually cleansing.

And yet, the rank and file were like teeny boppers swooning over Elivs or the Beatles whenever they read that tripe. And they tried to live by it.

Sometimes they died by it!!

Unconscionable!!

PONDER THAT sometime in the still hours before sunrise.....

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