I agree on the first shooter video games for a number of reasons. They desensitize one to violant acts and give a false sense of enpowerment. Secondly the United States is the only society to use violence as entertainment. This has got to fuel a HUGE amount of disfunctionality. A child sees something on the order of 150,000 violent acts on prime time tv by the time they are 5 years!!!!!!
"Right to bear arms" should mean ...
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DaCheech
from what I've heard, this crazy guy did not own the guns.
he figured a way to get them.
crazy people and criminals have pretty creative ways to get weapons (look at gangs, drug traffickers, and mexican mafia).
All we need is better filtering.
Also: cops/narcs use resources to arrest minor criminals (because they're easier to arrest)(example pot smokers, or johns that are looking for hookers), but don't dare use resources to get guns off the street from the REAL CRIMINALS.
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DaCheech
I think Moshe was busting balls on all the "do nots"!
Moshe, we should illegalize SUV's too! they rear end cars too high, causing more damage during accidents!
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minimus
Cagefighter, well stated!
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Chaserious
Cagefighter - your analysis of the history of the Second Amendment is open for dispute. First, the states were not abolute sovereigns when the Second Amendment passed. The Constitution was drafted in 1787 and went into effect in 1788 without the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment, was drafted in 1789 and ratified in 1791, so by the time it was written and drafted, we were no longer under the Articles, and the states were not nation-states, but qualified sovereigns, subject to federal law and the federal constitution as the "supreme law of the land".
One theory of the Second Amendment is that the preamble has some import (A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.) The preamble, in bold, suggests that perhaps the second amendment was related to national security. There was no standing army at this time, the theory being that if we were attacked, we would form an army from regular citizens; therefore their ownership of weapons was essential to national security. Also, the theory that only states may regulate weaponry is not entirely accurate either. The federal government has lots of firearms laws (See 18 USC 922, for example, prohibiting sale of firearms to felons, illegal aliens, and those dishonorably discharged from the military). Since the federal government has the exclusive right to engage in war, weapons that are only used for warfare may be regulated by the federal government. They can also regulate based on their interstate commerce power.
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dazed but not confused
Harleybear - Secondly the United States is the only society to use violence as entertainment
What!?
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DaCheech
I can't believe that someone thinks the united states is the only society to have violent entertainment!
don't be a dope
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Berengaria
Thank YOU Chaserious. This is exactly my understanding. Though far more eloquently stated.
We are living this from James Madison right now
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied: and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare .
Personally I believe this is an important part of our problem. Not only are we obsessed with aggression, we have gutted our infrastructure. Could we prevent more of these horrific scenes if we paid more attention and treasure to the well being of our populace?
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designs
Does wanting to wrestle Melissa George from 'Hunted' count
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DaCheech
yep, hunted is too violent!
how about the actor that quit criminal minds (because of horrific scenes) and then went on to work in worse stuff!
