Conversation with my Elder Father

happytobefree

This conversation was so absurd...that I actually chuckled under my breath.

..The shooting in Conneticut really hit me hard...so I decided to call my parents, kids and siblings just to say hello and I loved them.

Well my dad was happy to hear from me and said he loved me as well. He said, I know you don't want to hear this...but because we are in the last days things like this is going to happen and even get worse. Well I had to bite my tongue...because I really just want to show my parents I love them and spend time with them...so I choose not to dispute his statement. I just said dad no matter the reason it's horrible and I'm praying for understanding for the parents, children etc. involved.

...well we had other pleasantries...even discuss gun control...yes if my father voted...he would vote democrat...I even joke with him about this. I was surprised...be he said he would.

But this is the statement that he made that my stomach hurt...so I had to end the conversation. I'm right now...thinking about some topics to talk to people in field service about!!!!! OMG!!! WOW WOW AND WOW!!!!

As I told you...I choose my battles and my dads beliefs about his religion is his choice and I don't even try and reason with him.

...so I said Dad, I just called to let you all know I love and miss you. I will talk to you later.

l p

they are completely disconnected

LP

Finkelstein

He said, I know you don't want to hear this...but because we are in the last days things like this is going to happen and even get worse

You should have said " Hey dad, you think this is bad you should be thankful we're not living in biblical times when entire civilizations

were slaughtered including children and young woman were brought back to pleasure the conquerers a nd at times even YHWH

approved of his chosen people to carry this out " We should be so fortunate to be living now instead of then.

A matter of fact god killed a lot of children back then to show his power and strength.

tiki

it is a horrible tragedy...........spin it to use it to the advantage of the message? pretty insensitive to the parents of those poor little kindergartners whose live have been cut short...........bad things happen and the kid that did it obviously had unresolved problems.....leave it be....let the responsible parties do what they have to do, and be supportive of those in grief........but please.....leave off with using a very sad situation to your personal or organizational "advantage"............

zeb

I have always found it sad that jw will instantly 'go to quote' when something terrible happens.

and I recall a funeral i went to where just moments after the service one of the sis asked asked an elder about 'field service arrangements for this weekend'

happytobefree

Finkelstein... You should have said " Hey dad, you think this is bad you should be thankful we're not living in biblical times when entire civilizations

were slaughtered including children and young woman were brought back to pleasure the conquerers a nd at times even YHWH

approved of his chosen people to carry this out " We should be so fortunate to be living now instead of then.

...I so wanted to say this...but I already know what the outcome of the conversation would have been. I have been out of the JWorg for 12 years...and we have had many many discussions...and it always end up in the circular argument with threatening to turn me in to the Brothers and cutting off association with me..

...I find the best way is to not hide or apologize for my beliefs...this is the best way to conquer this. And deep down inside he is very proud of my stand. He always say...he's proud of my and my disfellowshipped sisters (not are religious views....we have not chosen drugs, illicit living etc. and we have raised him some great grandchildresn...he LOVE HIS GRANDCHILDREN)...also he states this alot... he know how we feel and we are at least respectful to him.

...so as I said earlier I choose my battles....My parents are getting up in age...And deep in my soul I know they will not die Jehovah Witnesses.

happytobefree

tiki... it is a horrible tragedy...........spin it to use it to the advantage of the message? pretty insensitive to the parents of those poor little kindergartners whose live have been cut short...........bad things happen and the kid that did it obviously had unresolved problems.....leave it be....let the responsible parties do what they have to do, and be supportive of those in grief........but please.....leave off with using a very sad situation to your personal or organizational "advantage"..

...so true...he said he was going to use the approach of a righteous God would not take innocent kids to heaven. So I said, Dad I think it's best to just tell peole to enjoy and love their family...because we never know when something tragic can happen. And I told him, I love him and would talk with him later.

...sigh...it's a damn same..REALLY!!!! This world really need more LOVE PERIOD!!! and less religions!!!

whathappened

Your dad really loves you, and you him. You are blessed, wish he could see his way out of the cult so you could be closer.

Finkelstein

And deep in my soul I know they will not die Jehovah Witnesses.

Are you sure about that, I know mine will ?

JWS are liken to have their head in a box, where they are both instructed and mentally indoctrinated to never take that box off.

Thinking this way of course is assuring themselves from god not whacking them.

happytobefree

Are you sure about that, I know mine will ?

..My father is an elder and PO. I have faded...he came to stay with me this summer for 1 week ( I live in TX...he live in OH). I had already found the local KH. I told him I had some brothers #'s Not once did he ask about going to the KH or field service. I'm 44 years old and my parents became JW when I was 2. In all of those years, I cannot think of one time where my dad did not try to meet the local brothers.

...also why he was here...(remember I'm a baptized witness). I failed to get all of my crosses of my walls and he and my mother used my bedroom. In my bathroom I have all kind of Christian reading material. He did not say not one thing about this....and did not ask to stay in a hotel ( he has the means).

...so I really think it a great possibility...and I'm staying hopeful

Your dad really loves you, and you him. You are blessed, wish he could see his way out of the cult so you could be closer.

...Yes I'm really blessed.. And you just do not know how much I want him out of the cult...if he can love me as he shows in the cult...just imagine how wonderful it would be if he was out..

Conversation with my Elder Father

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