The bride is a opposit to the harlot
The harlot is the great city Babylon
The bride is the city of God the new Jerusalem
THE HARLOT AND THE BEAST
by Vida 16 Replies latest watchtower bible
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logical
Vida,
Babylon the Great is indeed that city where Christ was crucified. It is comprised of those who claim to be annointed, but prove false to that power. It is those who profess to be in union with Christ yet ride on the wild beast and commit fornication with it.
The beasts are not political like religions want you to think, they are religious, and they really dont want you to know the truth. The head with the death stroke yet was revived is Judaism - figure it out, and there are supporting scriptures in Isaiah and Jeremiah (cant remember them right now - do a search in your bible for "death stroke"). Only religions are blasphemous on the grand scale described in Revelation 13, they commit all sorts in God's name, wars being the most dominant and sickening thing.
The second beast (this generations "disgusting thing"), in the image of the beast that recieved the death stroke, is the Watchtower. The GB AND those who claim to be annointed comprise Babylon the Great, riding the wild beast, fornicating with it. If you dont worship the WT you are "killed" - either condemned to die at Armageddon or disfellowshipped. Either way, you are dead in their eyes. The mark they force you to bear is baptism into the ORGANISATION.
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Vida
"Babylon the Great is indeed that city where Christ was crucified."
Here we agree completly.Babylon the Great was the city of the old Israel who claimed to be the people of God
Religion was a central element of the Roman empire
This is all history and has nothing to do with the Watchtower society
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avengers
Isn't the Watchtower the harlot and the beast the UN?
Oh well , too bad!
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peacefulpete
I applaud individual thinking Vida. There are a few things you need to understand about Rev. There is reason it was not widely accepted as Canon for many years. Being closer to the facts they recognized indisputeable Gnostic influences. So much of the book is thinly veiled Gnosticism that it is now accepted that the author was in fact using Christian terminology only as a cover.You see Gnostics in the 2nd and 3rd centuries were executed by Christian instigation.
That his symbolism had some meaning to Christians may have protected him. For instance 17:9 says the woman sits on seven hills.Rome was called the city on seven hills.Seven Kings refer to especially notorious emperors.etc.
The main thing to remember is that the outward text was not significant to the author.It was in the not so subtle use of numerology. The woman with 12 stars, the dragon,various beasts, earth and water.These are familiar symbols in astrology.I have earlier recommended the book "Myths and Deceptions of the Bible", by Lloyd Graham.I hate the title too.The author is not trying to win popularity thru tactfulness.His writting is at times repetitious.But he verse by verse goes thru how the symbolism would have been understood by a Gnostic of the time.
A whole world of understanding opens when we begin to realize that different cultures think in ways entirely alien to us in America.Until we attempt to understand Revelation from the stand point of the religious climate of the time we will only be guessing at what the author meant. -
LB
The Harlot is the ex-wife and the Beast is the 48 panhead I rode away from her on.
Never Squat With Yer Spurs On -
refiners fire
Isn't the Watchtower the harlot and the beast the UN?
A sudden flash of new light that dazzles!