by Dold Agenda 24 Replies latest jw friends
Honeybucket,
Any discussion about the bible that is progressing, is a bible study
Yes! I remember a C.O. explaining that a Bible study can take place standing on a doorstep, and may only last a few minutes - it can be counted as a study if it's regular.
I believe that all of Watchtower's numbers are being stretched a bit.
Edit: I believe the C.O. said that if you have done it 3 times and made arrangements for the 4th, you can start counting it as a study.
Yeah that's a good point. I wonder how many doorstep bible studies that includes. Also, I would LOVE to find out how long a person studies. I know some pioneers who might get to that 3rd RV to count a study for the month and that's it. They used to keep track of the individual people who studied, now they just want the numbers.
I started precisely zero studies that lasted long enough to more than introduce the Suffer Forever book. And I can count the number of Suffer Forever books I placed on the fingers of my left hand. It is because I focused more on placing rags, just so I could get out there without committing too much time to a study. As for others, I have seen "studies" that last for a while without producing anything.
Problem? Jehovah is working against nature. There are so many regulations regarding sex that it turns off people--homophobia, bans on multiple sex partners and fornication, and restrictions against porn and masturbation work against them. They ban research that is critical of their religion--when you work against nature, you need such bans to avoid losing members. People are stagnant within the religion, and householders can sense that because it is so blatant. They are against virtually anything that is fun--Christmas, birthdays, going out a week on a camping trip, the occasional night at the bar, disco, or video arcade, and so on. It matters not that a person goes to a bar and spends their money on video games and not beer--the washtowel bans it. They lack entertainment within their own organization, which trend has developed steadily since the early 1980s. And, going to college or focusing on a career that actually pays their bills--forget about it.
I can only look forward to the time when they start having blatant negative growth. Their 7+ million--I believe it is closer to 5 million, with the number of fake time slips and false reporting at all levels. (Not to mention, if you only count the ones that are in line with living forever according to their own doctrines, it would be well below 1 million). And they bash Satan--whose followers are actually growing rapidly. That's what happens when you work with nature--you get good growth, you don't worry about "apostates" so much, and people that try it are not going to start seeing every little fault and restriction (that isn't there).
Doorstep studies, neighbors you talk to once in a while, children, family studies, elders used to count bookstudies and studies with 'weaklings'. They're all counted.
I'm in Cali. It's been years since I rememebr a study as the result of knocking on a door.
I suspect that the majority of bible studies are family studies. It was easy hours and u had a bible study to count. Nobady ever asked what type of bible study. It guarenteed my hours were always in without knocking on many doors
Ten years ago, my wife and i reported 2 studies each.
None of them where really studies with our kids. Not at all.
That was four reported studies... but for real.. NONE!
(we are out today, faded away with our four kids.. hmm, i had missed the opportunity to report 2 other kids as well as studies, shame...)
Well, "4" studies, was not really studies in the past for the JW-sweden report for sure..
FYI, I believe a "bible study" with a child of a JW can only be counted once. However, the instruction that was given recently was that both parents can count the time and return visit.
I could be wrong though, so feel free to correct me.
Yeah the only bible study I have is the one I conduct with my sibling. Which is basically just us preparing for the meetings. The brothers said I can count that as a study.
In that case, we only reported wrong in our Cong.
It can definitely be so. Then i was wrong thinking it was like this everywhere.
Sorry Dold back in my day each Congo had 100or more maybe now it is 70 so they can stretch that number too LOL
