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Yes, smiddy I am for real. I guess if people can present evidence - and not breathless speculation - to the relevant body of elders, the organization could well end up hammering this lovely woman.
While I certainly hope they leave her alone, you could work off some of your own reactionary judgemental energy by imagining her being hailed before the elders and brought down to the size you think appropriate.
There is a difference between a personal judgement of whether Coco is acting in a christian manner and whether the WTBTS thinks she is. Looking at this from a purely WTBTS viewpoint it would be very surprising if they continue to allow her to be considered a JW. I agree with Smiddy, their publications would not support this. At the very least, it is likely she would be marked. I guess it just depends on which elders are shepherding her.
Hmmm... What an interesting thread. But more importantly is this picture I found and the text below it about her and her hubby.
It clearly says & I quote, "to celebrate their first VALENTINE'S DAY as husband & wife, she'll be taking him to see PRINCE, his FAVORITE musician in concert."
So when did it become acceptable to be a Jehovah's witness and celebrate valentines day? A well known pagan holiday (for the jwubs)?
How in the hell can she explain that???
I guess being famous/rich has its perks even in Jehovah land!
I don't see her commenting regularly or giving #2 talks or pioneering for that matter.
It all seems fishy to me.
I think it does, Listener, and other factors must be considered too. Greg Stafford was always treated extremely nicely. Writing critical books where you balance extremely carefully in citing what opposers have said and what valid points they might have etc. - and according to himself not being critisised, just having talks and discussions and being on friendly terms with the congregational elders; it surprised me he managed to balance. Then he started his "own religion", Servants of Jah - but still I don't know if he was df'ed. I have shown the Coco articles to others, and they are all thrilled and find her "way" a very positive one.
She's also starting in her own fashion reality tv show called the face on the oxygen channel.
Heres the Promo:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_KYc_eYuKQA
Hope some of that is clickable...
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While I certainly hope they leave her alone, you could work off some of your own reactionary judgemental energy by imagining her being hailed before the elders and brought down to the size you think appropriate.
I don't think Coco Rocha should be allowed to be a hypocrite, going around knocking on doors trying to suck people into a religion where they'd be forced to follow rules she doesn't follow herself.
And she ESPECIALLY shouldn't be allowed to put herself out there to the media as an example of a Jehovah's Witness. That's going to give people the idea that Jehovah's Witnesses have loosened up when in fact it's just a question of a double standard where celebrities are allowed to get away with things non-celebrities would be disfellowshipped for.
So when did it become acceptable to be a Jehovah's witness and celebrate valentines day?
*** g95 2/8 pp. 26-27 A New Name for an Old Orgy ***
A New Name for an Old Orgy
BY AWAKE! CORRESPONDENT IN JAPAN
IN BRITAIN, 15-year-old Ann excitedly rips open an envelope that has just arrived in the mail. She pulls out a card. Its front is decorated with dainty hearts. The inside contains a romantic message, and it is signed: “From an admirer.” With dreamy eyes and a rosy blush, Ann lets out a sigh. She is clearly flattered, and yet puzzled. ‘Who sent me this valentine?’ Ann wonders.
In Japan, Yuko has begun working in an office. Valentine Day draws near. Yuko’s calculations show that it will cost 20,000 yen ($200, U.S.) to buy small boxes of chocolates for each of her male coworkers. Yuko spends lunchtime with her girlfriends buying what they call giri-choco—obligatory chocolates.
February 14th is the day on which anxious romantics around the world await to be told, in one way or another, “I love you.” Neither Ann nor Yuko has any idea how this holiday got started. They might be surprised to find out.
The roots of what is now called Valentine Day can be traced back to ancient Greece, where worship of Pan flourished. This mythical half-man-half-goat fertility god had a wild, unpredictable nature that struck terror into humans. Aptly the English word “panic” literally means “of Pan.”
Pan was supposed to watch the flocks while playing his pipes. However, he was easily distracted. Pan had many love affairs with nymphs and goddesses. One sculpture shows Pan making advances to Aphrodite, the goddess of love. Eros, the god of love, hovers above them flapping his wings—much like the Cupid found on valentines today.
In Rome many worshiped a similar god named Faunus. He too was depicted as half man and half goat. Worship of Faunus was prominent at Lupercalia, an orgiastic festival that was observed each year on February 15. During this festival scantily clad men raced around a hill, brandishing goatskin whips. Women who wanted to bear children stood near the path of these runners. Striking a woman with a whip, the Romans believed, would ensure her fertility.
According to The Catholic Encyclopedia, Lupercalia was abolished by Pope Gelasius I in the late fifth century C.E. Yet, today we find a modern-day counterpart prospering under the title: “Saint Valentine’s Day.” There are various theories regarding the origin of this “Christianized” name. According to one story, the third-century Roman emperor Claudius II forbade young men to marry. Valentine, a priest, married young couples secretly. Some say that he was executed on February 14, about 269 C.E. In any case, a “saintly” title cannot conceal the unsavory origin of this celebration. Valentine Day is rooted in pagan rituals and is therefore not celebrated by true Christians. (2 Corinthians 6:14-18) Year-round expressions of genuine love are much more rewarding than the passing fancies of a sentimental holiday.
