1961 Kingdom Service Questions: Personal References To Watch Tower Publications On Moral Matters. . This booklet is the property of the_____________________congregation. It is to be retained in the congregation permanent file. Its counsel is for the guidance of the congregation committee in handling matters with members of the congregation. It can be referred to as the basis for reaching decisions and complying with the Society's policy, but it is not to be studied at any meeting, nor placed in general circulation among the publishers. . Download from Sendspace: . Click the link below and when the next page opens click the link in the blue box by the blue arrow. http://www.sendspace.com/file/iqim2p . . From Fileswap: . Click the link below and when the next page opens click SLOW DOWNLOAD. http://www.fileswap.com/dl/TKekn4yXUN/ . From Fileflyer: . Click the link below and when the next page opens click the green download button. http://www.fileflyer.com/view/RUMnFCy . . . Atlantis
1961 Kingdom Service Questions-Not to be studied at any meeting, nor placed in general circulation among the publishers!
by Atlantis 38 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Thanks! This is the go to book for elders when I was young and the rules in it remained in place for a long, long time. Some good stuff in here
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cobaltcupcake
It's interesting on page 57 that it says that if a woman is raped at gunpoint and doesn't try to fight her attacker off or scream she doesn't have to be disfellowshipped but can be considered an unintentional first offender "and should be dealt with accordingly."
Bloody hell! So sanctity of life doesn't enter into it. Just aggravate your attacker and then let him blow out your brains. Was there a rapist on the GB?
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cobaltcupcake
I also noticed that there's not one word in there about child sexual abuse.
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00DAD
Thanks Atlantis.
Is this the first draft the WTBTS made at an "Elders' Manual"?
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NeonMadman
Thanks, a true rarity. I've never even seen this booklet before.
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BlindersOff1
Thanks
Atlantis do you have a PDF of the trinity brochure?
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ambersun
Cobaltcupcake, I think they flip flopped on whether to scream or not to scream but I can remember as a teenage girl we were given strict instructions on numerous occasions that should we be attacked it was our duty to prevent it happening any way we could, which ultimately meant screaming our lungs out and struggling for all we were worth regardless of having a knife to our throats or gun to our heads because our virtue was more important than our lives. After all, armageddon was coming very soon when we would be resurrected anyway, so to give in and be raped was not even an option. I can remember being terrified at the thought of it.
I wonder what would happen if that poor young woman who was brutally gang raped and then thrown from a bus in Delhi was a JW. Can you just imagine the elders waiting at her bedside in intensive care for her to regain conciousness so they could 'deal with her accordingly' as a first offender.
Words fail me!
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RAPE VICTIM IS GUILTY OF FORNICATION
WT 64, Jan 15 p. 64 teaches if a woman doesn't scream she is guilty of fornication:
“Thus if a Christian woman does not cry out and does not put forth every effort to flee, she would be viewed as consenting to the violation."WT 68, Jun 1, confirms guiltiness by adding:
“Would it be different if the man had a weapon and threatened to kill you if you did not submit? No, the Scriptures plainly state that Christians are under obligation to ‘flee from fornication.’ (1 Cor. 6:18) It is true that you face the possibility of death in this case.”Aid to Bible Understanding ’ (1969) Acknowledges rape is not fornication - not guilty:
“RAPE: Rape is defined as unlawful sexual intercourse without the woman’s consent, effected by force, duress, intimidation…” (p. 1374)
“FORNICATION: Sex relations by mutual agreement between two persons not married to each other.” (p. 601)Awake! March 8, 1974, page 14. Restates earlier belief, not screaming means you are guilty:
“If she did not scream she would be as good as dead anyhow…Also, that if she did not scream she would ruin her relationship with Jehovah God and the Christian congregation; that then she would be disfellowshipped or excommunicated from it and that this would be worse than being killed as far as she was concerned.”
Awake! 80, July 8 p.5 - 6 New understanding that being raped renders you helpless - not guilty:
“I never physically fought him off in anyway…I was overwhelmingly confused and defenceless against the whole suddenness.”“Profound terror in the face of physical threats simply renders most women helpless.”WT 80 Oct 15, p.7, Restates earlier belief, not screaming means you are guilty:
“She told him that if he touched her she would scream as he had never heard anyone scream before. She explained that if she did not she would ruin her relationship with Jehovah God and the Christian congregation."WT 83, Mar 15 p.30 - If raped, not guilty of fornication:
“What do we understand here by ‘fornication’? The Greek word in this text is porneia…. A male or female who is forcibly raped would not be guilty of porneia.” Awake! 84, Feb 22 p. 25 - If you don't fight back you are unforgivably guilty:
“But if I gave in and he raped me, I would eventually die and have no hope of a resurrection.”
Awake! 84, Jun 8 p. 28 - If raped, not guilty of fornication :
“For the victim to be considered guilty of fornication, there would need to be proof of willing consent.”Awake! 86, May 22 p. 23 - If you don't fight back you are guilty:
“Why you should resist an attacker from the first moment...Your conscience will be clear. Even if you are raped, you will not sacrifice your self-respect or cleanness before God”Awake! 89, Aug 22 p.24 - Restates earlier belief, not screaming means you are guilty :
“It was then that I remembered the scripture in Deuteronomy chapter 22. It says that if a woman does not cry out when attacked, it indicates she is submitting to the man and is committing a sin against Jehovah.”w03 2/1 p. 31 - You may not be able to scream - Not guilty.
"Therefore, a victim who was unable to scream but otherwise did all she could under the circumstances can leave matters in Jehovah’s hands."
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HOW TO HANDLE BEING RAPED
Awake! 80, July 8 p. 12 - Fight back if you think you should:
“May she properly inflict damage on her assailant? Indeed she may…she may use any means at her disposal to resist intercourse.”Awake! 84, Feb 22 - Treat the rapist with respect and understanding:"Treat Him Respectfully – The intended victim should remember that the rapist is a human. No doubt there are circumstances in his life that have precipitated his behaviour. So although a woman should not cower in fear and permit a rapist to intimidate her, at the same time she should treat him understandingly as a fellow human.”
Awake! 84, Feb 22 p. 25 (Same magazine!!) - You must fight back or else it's an unforgivable sin:
“But if I gave in and he raped me, I would eventually die and have no hope of a resurrection.”
Awake! 86, May 22p. 23 - You must fight back:
“Why you should resist an attacker from the first moment...Your conscience will be clear. Even if you are raped, you will not sacrifice your self-respect or cleanness before God”Awake! 86, Sept 22 - Fight back if you think you should:
"True, the woman has to respond according to her assessment of the danger to her life, and we believe that is covered in the advice given in the box on page 23 (May 22, 1986). It should be kept in mind that submitting to rape gives no guarantee that the victim will not be beaten or killed afterward. See the article “They Resisted Rapists” in our issue of February 22, 1984.—ED."