WT does NOT own "Military Stock"

by amccullough 58 Replies latest watchtower scandals

dungbeetle

AMC, this is a good thread, and I AMM glad (in spite of what you may think) that you are still posting. I mean, you are one of my favorites kicking targets.
All seiousness aside, the question was introduced?
Why doesn't the Society just say no? It is stumbl;ing people. upsetting people; why not just divest themselves of it. What is the point of hanging on to it? Thre was a talk at my KH a few weeks ago wherin it was STATED that a JW could not be a janitor at a blood bank, or at a health clinic where abortions are perforned, etc etc.
It just is very two-faced to me, and for you to go on and on about the 'true ownership' and yadyadya, is just so much red herrings to me.
They should just get rid of it.
And as for ANEWPERSON:
I sent you a very long emial which, tho you didn't say so directly, you seem to be alluding to not receving. If you're having trouble getting your email, I'll just bring it back to this public forum where it all started anyway.
I checked on such info as I could find, through public and private sources, and could find no existance of the death of anyone by the name of John ********** with the particlars I've been given. Nothing like that has happened at ALL.
I went through a lot of trouble and time to go research this, and report back....oh never mind, I'll just make an original post.
jwsons

I owned a broom company. One day a guy from United Nation comes to me and ask me to sign a contract to develope a special broom specified using for United Nation only (because that type of broom no one at the public can use and even not allow to use... because it relates to the US gov't Secret anyhow, only US Air Force and US Navy can use). So this type of broom won't sell to the public. I'm free from United Nation relation. Yeh ? Supposed that no one can know my secret (even some Presiding Overseers) so I keep going to get benefits from that business since 1995. EVEN ME, I'M STILL DON'T KNOW MY SECRET WHAT I'M DOING (IF I DID KNOW ABOUT THIS STINKY STUFFS, I SHOULD GET RID ALL THOSE SHARES HaHaHaaa)
Here, some of my colleagues in my innocent broom company since 1995 [filed on May 26 , 1995](some name very familiar: "Linda SCHULTZ, Clau HENSCHEL and so on ....). Kent and Randy showed all of this scandal since 1999 !!! Only your JDubs couldn't know. Search engine with "Watchtower bombs" you will see in many websites in a lot of languages about this scandal or vist www.freeminds.org of Randy

RESIDENTIAL FUNDING SECURITIES , filed this on 05/26/1995.
45,000.00 100 SCHULTZ LINDA 5.3750 44,165.42 ZZ 200 S WATCHTOWER DR #303 5.0000 251.99 1 10.3750
57,150.00 100 RIVERA ERNEST 6.1250 56,345.99 ZZ 202 S WATCHTOWER DR #101 5.7500 347.25 1 11.1250
100 COTTINGHAM DE 6.3750 56,613.78 ZZ 106 NORTH WATCHTOWER DR #102 6.0000 356.23 1 11.3750
100 HENSCHEL CLAU 7.1250 72,210.69 ZZ 1 104 N WATCHTOWER DR #104 6.7500 495.53 1 12.1250
20,000.00 100 DEIDESHEIMER 5.5000 18,964.98 ZZ 202 SO WATCHTOWER DR 5.1250 163.42 1 10.5000
50,000.00 100 PENCE CYNTHIA 6.6250 48,311.08 ZZ 200 S WATCHTOWER DR #104 6.2500 320.16 1 11.6250
45,500.00 100 ROBB LOU 6.7500 44,930.94 ZZ 202 S WATCHTOWER DR #102 6.3750 295.12 1 11.7500
71,200.00 100 ROTTMAN PETER 7.6250 69,699.44 ZZ 106 N WATCHTOWER DR #301 7.2500 503.95 1 12.6250
81,600.00 100 KEARNS CARRYE 7.1250 80,998.51 ZZ 106 N WATCHTOWER DR #302 6.7500 549.76 1 12.1250
67,650.00 100 DINELL STEPHA 6.5000 66,828.52 ZZ 103 N WATCHTOWER DR #104 6.1250 427.60 1 11.5000
76,900.00 100 GRIMME KEVIN 7.0000 76,186.01 ZZ 103 N WATCHTOWER #303 6.6250 511.62 1 12.0000

***amccullog said Watchtower only owned shares of a comapny which invent Rand Cam engine. Then REGI (a Bomb maker company) just steal the invention without permission of Watchtower's Rand Engine and didn't pay any benefit to Watchtower at all (so WT can be "free" from warefare involvement)AND THE STEALER EVEN DARE TO SAY that their arms develope with Rand Cam Engine (Dare to use the stealing invention with the same original name !!!] . That's the different between REGI and Rand Cam Engine
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MY BRoooom Fart Bombs HeHeHE
deddaisy

"....but I cannot assume that just because you say so....."
amccullough
mccullough: why can't you assume that freeman, or newperson, or anyone on this board can read and decipher for themselves without YOU rearranging the words and sugarcoating things and explaining things for everyone that you seem to think are somehow beneath you in intelligence? don't you think we can read? and why do you insist on "proof" so that "...people like me (quoting you) can investigate and verify your story," yet you seem not the least bit concerned about "investigating" or "assuming" ANYTHING about the WTS unless, of course, it concerns something that you want to denounce the board about......
also, you seem to know EVERYTHING about this "RAND" stock....just out of curiosity, was it you that brought it to the attention of the board? If I'm not mistaken, it was "newperson." It was you, upon reading about it, that scurried around and posted a new thread stating the WTS did NOT (in UPPER case) own military stock. correct me if I'm wrong. how do you know so much about it, or so you try to convince this board that you do.....
Freeman: mccullough suggests that you provide proof in the future so that he can investigate and maybe do a little shuffling. I suggest that he is nothing more than a mole and I would let him read any proof that I had of anything in the PUBLIC PAPERS.....
Oh yes, XENU: your jello-mind is showing.....time for a re-programming?
Tatiana

I'm with you, dungbeetle.
I was told over and over about "stumbling" people. Why are the rules different if you're a rank and file jw? Supposedly my mother, who worked for the local paper, could not write articles about Christmas, or any other holiday. Another sister was not allowed to sell cigarettes in the store she worked in. She didn't MAKE the cigarettes, did she? (side note--she could sure sell all the alcohol products she wanted to)
It's two-faced and hypocritical. Were they FORCED to take the stocks? NO!!!!!!
Is their greed showing? YES!!!!!!!!!
I guess they are allowed to stumble whomever they want to. As long as there is profit in it.
April
Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/171905
amccullough

Dungbeetle-
I mean, you are one of my favorites kicking targets.
Is that so? I am one of your “favorites kicking targets?” There is nothing funnier than someone who attempts to insult another’s intelligence in writing, yet is unable to use proper grammar.
All seiousness aside, the question was introduced?
Is this a question or a statement?
It just is very two-faced to me, and for you to go on and on about the 'true ownership' and yadyadya, is just so much red herrings to me.
They should just get rid of it.
I’ve already stated about 3 times that they should just get rid of it (2 posts on this thread, one post on another thread.) Maybe you do not understand the intent of my post. I am not trying to cover up for anyone. I am simply trying to clarify the facts.
Jwsons –
Your post is completely nonsensical. The only bit I could get out of it was, “Search engine with "Watchtower bombs" you will see in many websites in a lot of languages about this scandal or vist www.freeminds.org of Randy”, which I will do, thank you.
Deddaisy –
freeman, or newperson, or anyone on this board can read and decipher for themselves without YOU rearranging the words and sugarcoating things
The latter part of your above quote is a LIE. I challenge you to provide examples of me “rearranging the words” or “sugarcoating.” If not, then you are a LIAR. About the first part of your quote, I know people can read that is why I started this thread, so that people who have read things that I have not can either verify or correct what I posted.
and why do you insist on "proof"
That has to be one of the silliest questions I have ever read. You’re right! I should just believe everything that everyone tells me!
seem not the least bit concerned about "investigating" or "assuming" ANYTHING about the WTS unless, of course, it concerns something that you want to denounce the board about......
Maybe you need to reread the initial post a few times before all the words sink in. My initial post was meant to inspire discussion or debate on the facts I found and hopefully bring new facts to the table. You’re right in that I am not the least bit concerned in assuming anything about the WTS or anything else for that matter. I try not to assume anything. You are wrong in saying that I am not concerned in investigating anything about the WTS, that was the whole idea of this post was to clarify and investigate their connections to the military!
I have no idea what you are talking about in denouncing the board…
also, you seem to know EVERYTHING about this "RAND" stock....just out of curiosity, was it you that brought it to the attention of the board? If I'm not mistaken, it was "newperson."
I don’t know who first brought it up on this board…I replied to a thread started by anewperson on 3/22 but it has been on this board in other threads long before that. Why does that matter? Finder’s keepers?
California Sunshine

Example of "Sugarcoating" by RMC
"**********"JWs teach that the "rod" spoken of in the bible refers to the rod a shepherd uses which is used for guiding rather than beating. So the JWs do not teach that you should "spank".************
Although this is not about stock ownership, it sure is about "sugarcoating"!
amccullough

jwsons -
I missed this bit at the end of your quote...
***amccullog said Watchtower only owned shares of a comapny which invent Rand Cam engine. Then REGI (a Bomb maker company) just steal the invention without permission of Watchtower's Rand Engine and didn't pay any benefit to Watchtower at all (so WT can be "free" from warefare involvement)AND THE STEALER EVEN DARE TO SAY that their arms develope with Rand Cam Engine (Dare to use the stealing invention with the same original name !!!] . That's the different between REGI and Rand Cam Engine
At the following thread SF posted some interesting Shareholder information http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=23921&site=3
Here are some quotes from that information that contradicts what you said.
REGI U.S. owns the U.S. rights to the Rand Cam (TM)
technology and Rand Energy Group, Inc. owns the worldwide rights exclusive of
the U.S.
So REGI / Rand Energy Group own the rights to the engine. This McCann bloke no doubt sold the rights to them as part of their negotiations since he probably didn't have the capital to develop, manufacture, market and sell his new engine.
Some other interesting quotes...
Rand Energy Group Inc. is owned 51% by Reg Technologies Inc. and 49% by Rand Cam Engine Corp.
REGI U.S. is ultimately
controlled by Reg Technologies Inc. REGI U.S. is controlled by Rand Energy
Group, Inc., a British Columbia corporation of which Reg Technologies Inc. is
the majority shareholder.
both Reg Technologies Inc. and Rand Cam Engine Corp. could be considered
the beneficial owner of the 5,367,900 shares registered in the name of Rand
Energy Group Inc.
Rand Cam Engine Corp. is a privately held company whose stock
is reportedly owned 50% by The Watchtower Society, a religious organization, 34%
by James McCann and the balance by several other shareholders. Mr. McCann has
indicated that he donated the shares held by The Watchtower Society to that
organization but has retained a voting proxy for those shares.
amccullough

Example of "Sugarcoating" by RMC
"**********"JWs teach that the "rod" spoken of in the bible refers to the rod a shepherd uses which is used for guiding rather than beating. So the JWs do not teach that you should "spank".************
Although this is not about stock ownership, it sure is about "sugarcoating"!
I would like to keep this thread on topic, but in my defense that is not sugarcoating. Would you like WT and Awake articles that back up what I say? Or since it should be innocent until proven guilty, why don't you provide some articles where they say you should spank your children. And, by the way, it is not RMC.
jwsons

With the second last quote above:
quote:
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both Reg Technologies Inc. and Rand Cam Engine Corp. could be considered
the beneficial owner of the 5,367,900 shares registered in the name of Rand
Energy Group Inc.
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am mccullouge (Mr McCann ?) now admit that Reg Technologies (REGI) and Watchtower's Rand Cam share the name Rand Energy Group. Then this Group involve in Bomb Making, BUT Watchtower doesn't get benefits from the shares which contribute to the development of any Fart Bomb.
http://www.tenkwizard.com/blurbs.php?repo=tenk&ipage=1098910&exp=watchtower&g=
http://www.regtech.com/main.htm
HeHeHeeeee
amccullough

am mccullouge (Mr McCann ?)
Uh-oh, you've found me out!
Reg Technologies (REGI) and Watchtower's Rand Cam share the name Rand Energy Group. Then this Group involve in Bomb Making, BUT Watchtower doesn't get benefits from the shares which contribute to the development of any Fart Bomb.
For the umpteenth time, I acknowledge that the WT owns half of a company, that owns half of another company that develops engines for military applications and that partners with other companies involved in miltary apps. So, for the most part, you are simply restating what I've already said.

WT does NOT own "Military Stock"

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