Has anyone ever been asked by an elder if your putting donations in the boxes

by label licker 14 Replies latest jw friends

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  WTWizard

  Here's one idea. Don't pick up any littera-trash. Then, don't go out in field circus. Turn in a zero for your time, attaching a note that you will not be going out in field circus until you can get your littera-trash. If a publication is needed for a boasting session and you are unable to obtain that publication, skipping all boasting sessions where the missing publication is used (the whole thing, not just the part requiring the book) will add to it.

  Now, when the hounder whines about your not doing any field circus, you have a reason. You cannot and will not go out in field circus if you don't have anything to place, and you are not turning in fake time. When the hounder-hounder comes and sees the "irregular publisher", that hounder is going to have to answer to the hounder-hounder about why you did zero field circus during those months. Yes, that hounder might be vindictive toward you afterward, but hopefully that will wake up half the congregation into leaving or get that hounder in trouble with the hounder-hounder.

  Part of the deal is NO ONE HAS ANY DAMN BUSINESS ABOUT WHAT YOU PUT IN THAT DONATION BOX EXCEPT YOU! If they refuse that condition, and refuse to let you get littera-trash until they see what you are donating, simply remain "on strike". You can't do field circus because you don't have anything to place. And, if you give in and let them see what you are putting in, they are only going to start escalating demands. This is extortion--which is condemned right in their own LIE-ble. It will start with "something", at which point they will up the demand. You might be required to put the equivalent of 1/4 ounce of silver a month to keep receiving littera-trash, and then they jump it to a whole ounce, then 3 ounces, then 10. Before you know it, you are going into debt trying to satisfy one hounder. If they don't give you the littera-trash without this hassle, you shouldn't give them any field circus.
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  LoisLane looking for Superman

  Hi Label Licker, I missed this thread when it went around 5 months ago.

  So here goes...WHAT? An Elder interrogated you for 3 hours WITHOUT your husband present??? I mean first, 3 hours? And second, without your husband?

  Umm , Something very fishy with this Elder and his wife Label. He sounds really creepy.

  I wished you had allowed yourself to say "Brother, I think we covered everything in the first 5 minutes. It has been 10 minutes and my husband is waiting for me outside in the car. Bye". Yes he is a control freak and also likes the sound of his own voice. That was 3 hours you will never get back.

  About pioneering. You were obviously a sincere couple. Possibly if you and hubby pioneered you would make others look "bad". Just a guess. There is sooooo much politicking that goes on in some KHall's. Not Christ like at all.

  Just Lois
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  LoisLane looking for Superman
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  AnneB

  FYI on the cost of producing a book...it's miniscule. Several years ago I worked for an educational book publisher; you know, the ones who put out those heavy, thick college textbooks that cost upwards of $150. Cost to print? $.51. Fifty one cents USD. When a mistake was made and a wrong or damaged book shipped out, the company didn't even want it returned because the postage was far more than the raw cost of the book!

  That was a publishing company that paid wages and benefits. WTBTS doesn't even have those expenses, so why should they browbeat the congregation into making budget-breaking donations for literature?

  I do remember that WT sent out a letter saying that orders for deluxe Bibles and premium publications such as the Insight books and bound volumes went up when the pricing arrangement changed, and that donations had gone down. Their solution? Withhold extra literature from the congregations until contributions matched the level of literature ordered. That was in 1991 or 1992. I remember it because I was approached and told that my literature orders were not going to be filled until my contributions increased. I was stunned, because I contributed $100 at a time. The elders claimed that no such contributions were ever made in that KH. I didn't know what to think or say back then but now I wonder if the person emptying the contribution box was pocketing the money.

  When I figured out TTATT I threw away the literature...so the whole thing was an exercise in futility anyway.
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  LongHairGal

  Aunt Connie:

  Your story makes my blood boil. They had the absolute audacity to over-ride the majority and go ahead and build this whatever and then imagine they are going to extract money by strong-arm methods from strugging people who didn't want it in the first place??? Luckily for me I am no longer active in this religion but hearing this garbage would make me run out.

  Many people are not aware that signing a pledge makes them legally responsible to pay!! Think about that!

  I would tell these f#ckers to go take a hike. The damage the religion has caused people by their anti-college, anti-career stand is something that I can never forgive. I have no pity and no use for COs or anybody else who is looking to be supported. They can go to hell as far as I am concerned.

  I have no use for this or any other religion.