When You Were Devout, What Was The Most..

by Englishman 32 Replies latest jw friends

  • TheStar
    TheStar

    As much as I wanted to believe, I never was completely convinced of paradise on earth. Also, I always wondered about the whole annoited thing. In my congregation there was an old, mean, witch who claimed to be of the annoited. I always doubted her and it would make me sick to see how everyone groveled over her even though she was just outright mean. She was a really old fart and she only liked the young brothers to attend to her... it was sick...

    "We would not refuse to treat one as a brother because he did not believe the Society is the Lord's channel... There should be full liberty of conscience." -- WT April 1, 1920, p. 100, 101

  • Marilyn
    Marilyn

    >>>>>>>>>>>>The Cedar Point Conventions in Ohio and the trumpet blasts in Revelation etc. were hard to swallow/indigestible.

    ISP your comment is is funny coz me and hubby used to have a real hard time with the trumpet blasts pertaining to Cedar Point et al. I used to dream off during the book study, but my husband was cursed with an inquiring mind. One night, while he was reading ahead, he whispered to me: "Oh no, the Witnesses have been arrested again"!! I drifted back from la la land to ask him what for this time? He answered "for lotering at Cedar Point". Then we dissolved into a terrible attack of giggles that was very hard to conceal. And that was loooong before we left.

    As to the question: I could never invisage Armegeddon. I just couldn't see God killing millions of people as taught by the JWs. I also used to get annoyed that anything in the Bible that was encouraging was directed at the 144,000. I once got into trouble for saying "Oh they keep all the good stuff for themselves"!

    Marilyn

  • ISP
    ISP

    Haha! Marilyn! The writing was on the wall I guess!

    ISP

  • Scully
    Scully

    I couldn't handle the thought that of all the people I knew at school, most of them seemed like genuinely good nice people, coming from good nice homes with loving parents who were trying to teach their kids to be good citizens -- yet God didn't care about all that, and all these people would end up being "bird food" at Armageddon. I also knew plenty of JWs who were corrupt, and always looking for a way to screw "the system" instead of paying Caesar's things to Caesar. Somehow that just didn't add up.

    The fact that women were to be "in subjection".... MAJOR MAJOR burr in my saddle. Especially when there were men in leadership roles who were glaringly ignorant, could barely read beyond a Grade 6 level, and whose poor speaking skills were assaulting the congregation's ears week after week after week. The ones that particularly irritated me were the ones who said NEW-Q-LAR WAR instead of NEW-KLEE-AR WAR; or who tried to pass off erroneous scientific information as fact from the platform. One I remember thought he was being SO brilliant when he was talking about the "miracle of birth" and instead of using the Watchtower Approved™ term "birth canal" (in place of "vagina") declared from the platform that babies emerged from the mother's Fallopian Tubes!!

    The stupid little tyrannical rules about just about EVERYTHING used to drive me up the wall. From the level of hemlines and necklines, to the wearing of skirts while going door-to-door in -40C weather, to the no coloured shirts for men, the length of sideburns, no facial hair for men (I guess it was ok for sisters), no Smurfs, nothing to keep children quietly occupied during meetings, being judged by the number of doors your car has relative to its suitability for service.... eventually it just became burdensome to listen to the Pharasaical hypocrites week after week.

    Love, Scully

  • lauralisa
    lauralisa

    I could never quite shake the initial jolt of "yeah, right... you guys must really think we're STUPID" and quite frankly cold fear of the self-assuming ARROGANCE I experienced when I first read their 'explanation'of the events described in Daniel chapter 12, vs 11-12. (It was contained in an old blue book; can't remember its title.....)

    And from the time that the constant feature has been removed and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation, there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. Happy is the one who is keeping in expectation and who arrives at the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days!
    They proclaimed that these numbered periods of time had been fulfilled during arcane assemblies where certain publications were released....(1,290 days after some October date (October: always reliable for prophesy fulfillment) in 1919; some major convention in like Cleveland or something) events so monumental that they had to be kept "sealed" for centuries ...not to mention so awe-inspiringly fabulous and integral to the "divine plan" that they were contained in bible cannon...

    Gack,

    lauralisa

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan

    Lots of things that i accepted but didn't agree with. Like the WTBTS's explanation of the flood. There's been quite a bit of debate on this site about the flood, I personally think that it was a local event (bracing myself - )

    Also, the insistence that Jesus died on a stake instead of a cross. A classic case of the Society being contrary for the sake of being contrary.

    Of course, the blood issue. I think most Witnesses accept it as part of the package and just hope that it never becomes an issue for them.

    How about not toasting, or saying "bless you" to someone when they sneeze, or saying "good luck". All that was pretty weird. Dubs are superstitious in their avoidance of superstition.

    Many other things, those things came to mind first.

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    Who would be resurected. In my mind the only a few like Hitler or Henry the eith and charles manson would probably go right to hell and never come back. All molesters.
    And who would survive the big A. To many good hearted people that are not worthy of being killed. I could never believe that only JWs would survive. I think a lot of JWs feel the same way they just don't openly talk about it.

    "I look to the sea, reflections in the waves spark my memory
    Some happy,some sad"
    styx

    This one most definitely Happy
  • Eric
    Eric

    Among many things, some of them already pointed out above:

    That the Human race is on a downward spiral, getting ever worse the farther we get from Adam's perfection. In conjunction with this, that the "System of Things" is degenerating, Satan's influence permeates the world, things are getting worse day by day.

    It didn't make any sense to me then, nor does it when I hear my family try to make the point now.

    The Watchtower is full of bad news, calamities, famine and earthquakes, never seeing the progress.

    Eric

  • morrisamb
    morrisamb

    Even though I was someone who never doubted for one second...
    I used to ask,
    1. how is it possible there were no Christians from the time of Christ up until 1800 and something? So for over 1000 years there were no good people on the earth?
    2. How could someone as self-sacrificing as Mother Teresa be not worthy?
    3. How come I can't watch fantasy shows like Bewitched and I Dream Of Jeannie?

  • Quotes
    Quotes

    Similar to plmkrzy, this is one that "got my wheels turning" when someone asked me this while I was a good little JW teenager in field service:

    If someone rejects the JW religion, they will be punished, not by hellfire, but by simply never being resurrected, eternally dead. If someone is kicked out for say, smoking one cigarrette/cigar or having one adulterous affair, again they will be simply eternally dead.

    And if someone is responsible for millions of deaths (e.g. Hitler, Mussolini (sp?) Ghengis Khan (sp?) etc. again the punishment is the same: eternal death.

    Does that seem fair? Minor infractions are subject to the same punishment as the most horrendous crimes against humanity? Is this judicial system fair and equitable?

    This one churned in the back of my mind for years, but was, by itself, not enough to cause my exit.

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    For interesting Watchtower Society literature quotes, complete with references but without any editorial, check out:
    http://Quotes.JehovahsWitnesses.com

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