seriously though cantleave - you see it every day on here and sometimes it gets a bit thin...
thats what I really liked about the common ancestry thread - people (eg you+ cofty) expressing themselves within a subject they really know and care about - proper value getting added - not nearly boys cutting and pasting crap they read for the first time a moment earlier...
or in this case 'geo-ip doesn't work because it doesn't work for me' ...it's like 'global warming isn't happening because we had snow outside my window yesterday'
anyways - Ray Franz is still on Wikipedia and that poor fool is still in Norwich, Norfolk, Ipswich etc...all good.