Future Baby-Mama in a Rage!

by SophieG 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • SophieG
    SophieG

    Sosoconfused mentioned this vaguely in his thread and it upset me… I asked him to post where I could find the information, trust me I WENT LOOKING! Thank you sosoconfused.

    Now let’s read this:

    http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20121215/view-of-in-vitro-fertilization/

    "The development of IVF opened the way to other procedures that definitely conflict with God’s thinking as reflected in the Scriptures. For example, a woman’s eggs might be fertilized with sperm from a man who is not her husband. She might then allow the resulting embryos to be implanted in her. (Lesbian couples sometimes resort to this procedure.) Or a husband’s sperm might be used to fertilize the eggs from a woman who is not his wife. The husband’s wife might then allow the resulting embryos to be implanted in her.

    In a variation that some term “embryo adoption,” the embryos placed in a wife’s womb involve neither her eggs nor her husband’s sperm. In yet another variation, a married couple’s eggs and sperm are fertilized outside the womb by IVF. The resulting embryos are then implanted in the womb of a surrogate, a woman who carries the baby and delivers it for them. *

    Those reproductive procedures are unacceptable to God’s servants out of respect for his direction: “You must not give your emission as semen to the wife of your associate to become unclean by it.” (Lev. 18:20, 29; Prov. 6:29) When fertilization involving eggs or sperm (or both) from someone not within the marital union occurs, this amounts to what the Bible terms por·nei′a, sexual immorality. Those procedures are a gross misuse of the sexual organs.—Matt. 5:32; 1 Cor. 5:11; 6:9, 18; Heb. 13:4"

    I mentioned earlier that I was upset….now I am in a RAGE!
    When I look at the “scriptural basis” for the reasoning, I can’t help but for the first time acknowledge that the bible writers definitely DID NOT EXPECT for people to become so scientifically advanced. It also has definitely made me cross over to: I don’t know if I still want to believe in God and here is why:

    I am in my 40’s and I STILL want a child. (I won’t post why I did not have one for the same of anonymity.) But it is a deep desire that I am realizing that I may make some serious decisions to fulfill. I am working on my Plans A, B and C. So because I may not have a mate, or can’t get pregnant by sexual intercourse, I have to sacrifice not fulfilling a dream??? Thank you Jehovah (insert sarcasm) for letting those 8 guys in Brooklyn know that if I did choose IVF I would be considered as someone who committed porneia. Which is interesting since I would have been impregnated by a syringe and not a penis. But no, 8 men, (directed by Jehovah) have tried to take away a right from me. Thanks Jah, who in the first place created me with this desire…



    OH WAIT…I am not in anymore! And thank (insert new god?) Because I would have flipped out if I read this. How DARE THEY????????? This is such a personal decision and to tie it in with PORNEIA just takes the cake for me!

    Maybe I am too emotional right now and I can’t see straight…maybe you guys can set me straight. But I am sorry, this has taken my anti-JW-ness to a whole new level.

    It’s true what they say: It takes something personal to wake you up. If I was in… THIS would have done it!

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    There, there. You are out of all that now.

    BabyMama

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    Children are a hindrance to the Watchtower agenda. When you have kids, you don't have time to be peddling their merchandise door-to-door, bringing more unfortunate people into the cult and attending their indoctrination sessions (aka meetings).

    Women are definitely second class citizens in this religion. What you want doesn't count.

    Now get out there and knock on those doors!

  • SophieG
    SophieG

    JGNAT! LOLOL! Thank you…I needed to be soothed!
    I know I am throwing a tantrum! It’s a good thing I am at work, because I would have been cursing up a storm if I was at home.

    Heaven: OMG! Well GOOD. Maybe they need to stop having kids so the whole Org can just die off! But I am having my baby, dangit!

  • used2beme
    used2beme

    I must agree with your feelings, I said the same thing when I saw that article. I thought it was quite heartless, and was very surprised to see it in print, even though I've been inactive for years and now consider myself non-religious, I thought many of the principles of this organization I was raised in were good and the best of many other religious choices. I did like someone’s comment when this was being discussed before, " only the bOrg can blame someone for immorality when nothing physically touched."

    Growing up my cousin and I always dreamed of having big families, we promised each other as girls that if we couldn't carry a baby the other would be a surrogate, who would have thought we were setting ourselves up for disfellowshipping…

    Best wishes to you in the future…I had my child later In life and he has been the joy of our lives.

  • diana netherton
    diana netherton

    Someone ought to feed this to the press it's so ridiculous. They take away pretty

    much everything that brings joy into someone's life. This isn't a shocker but it's

    clear to see that they are really trying to control the aspect of everyone's life.

    What next??

  • sooner7nc
    sooner7nc

    In the spirit of Sheldon Cooper I present you with a hot beverage.

  • wasblind
  • wasblind
    wasblind

    Governing Body Approved

  • maninthemiddle
    maninthemiddle

    I wish more JWs would take the anti-child talk seriously. The org would die much faster.

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