I don't consider it unnatural. Being that we now know it is not something you become, you are born with it, then it is not really unnatural at all, is it?
Good point. BUT, if you're straight, you can't just have sex with anybody anytime you want. You're expected to fall in love and then get married and remain married and have a family. Anything outside that is a "SIN."
So let's be honest here. If one believes that gay sexual desires are natural, then the same rules would apply. Gay sex outside some form of a "marriage" would also be condemned. Right?
So if you know someone gay and he is not in a monogamous relationship, then whatever sex he (or she) is having would still be considered a SIN, just like with a straight person.
This is part of the issue of the "gay subculture" that isn't being addressed. Gay culture and straight culture are different.
For instance, if you're gay, you might go to some isolated park bathroom and hang out, hoping someone will come in there and have sex with you. They have what they call "glory holes" where someone puts their genitalia through the hole and engage in oral or anal sex. Where's the straight counterpart to that? If a straight woman had sex with as many strangers as the average gay person does, she'd be called a "whore." So where is the line drawn between "LOVE" and "LUST"?
If you're gay and in a big city, you can pay like $12 and get a room, a locker and a towel. You put your clothes in the locker and shower and just wear the towel. There is usually a sauna and a steam room and lots of dark hallways where you can barely see anything and you feel around and have sex with whomever you want to. Now where is the straight cultural counterpart to that?
So my position is that the straight world is empathetic when they are presented with the concept of the right of one person to love another person, regardless of their gender. That's Obama's position -- no one has the right to tell someone to be lonely and not to LOVE someone. But that is a far cry from condoning promiscuity and sex with strangers. In this same culture, straights have a very clear definition of INFIDELITY!
Fact is, we do define and control our sexuality. Period. If you want to have sex with an underaged individual, the government will lock you up and label you as a pedophile! Fathers are not supposed to have sex with their daughters! Inappropriate fondling is a crime. It doesn't matter if you're "naturally attracted to children" or not. We draw the line. We draw the line with relatives. It desn't matter if we are sexually attracted to one of our relatives, we just suppress that emotion. It doesn't matter if a straight person finds some other person sexually attractive. It's going to happen. But if you're married, you suppress that emotion. You don't let it develop.
But I'm gay and I know, once you deveoop those emotions it is INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT to change those emotions. For a while, I'd play mind games with myself not to be tempted. The temptation was so strong sometimes and I knew it was hard to resist, so I'd just give in. I'd tell myself, "Okay, you can have sex with that person, but not until tomorrow." Of course, by the next day, that temptation would be long gone, but I wasn't trying to resist the urge either. Or if I saw some really handsome guy in the store or something and became tempted, I'd let my mind give in to having an affair, only I'd also tell myself after he got me at his house, he'd tie me up and then kill me. You know? All the really cute guys I'd turn into mass murderers. But what happens is, your body gets used to that mind game and then after a while, it fast-forwards and you don't even see the men any more. It's like a married person who just stops really looking at anyone else in that way.
So the fact is, we control our emotions all the time. If you see someone and are attracted to them at first but then find out they are a relative, then you change that emotion.
Plus, I thought gay sex was much less complex than being straight. If you're straight and promiscuous, the usual routine was to date some girl, buy her a really expensive dinner and a movie, you know, shell out $150 then maybe she'll "put out." But if you're gay, you could go to a bath house and just hope to have sex with any number of people who happen to be in there that day or night. Of course, they give out and encourage use of condoms. So you skip all the courting and small talk and have sex with a stranger whom you never bother to ask their name usually. How convenient. But also how addicting.
At one low point in my life, I ended up accepting money for performing oral sex on straight guys. I was dressed as a woman. The money was easy, but I ended up addicted to the sex! It just was addicting becoming intimate with strangers. But these were straight men! These were businessmen who were out of town on business who had sweet suburban wives at home taking care of their kids in nice neighborhoods who just wanted to get laid and were willing to and had the money to pay for it. I was dressed as a woman and told most men I was a gay, but 90% of them took a second look and then decided that was okay with them. These were young college boys whose girlfriends were waiting to have sex with them after marriage and they just couldn't wait that long. They just needed a quick orgasm. So after a while, you meet lots of people and soon you become like a therapist.
Now I wasn't like a "crack ho" who will go to bed with anybody and do anything for $10! I really didn't need the money. I just liked the intimacy. I wouldn't hae sex with anybody who wasn't attractive. You know, it wasn't like I was in a whorehouse and had to take the next customer. So it was kind of fun, really. Of course, I did get arrested and I can also tell you what it is like to get beat up and have a knife at my throat! So it wasn't all fun and games, and fortunately, I didn't have any drug addictions so I only did it when I felt like it. But it took years and years and years and years not to be aware of a man's sexuality. The sexual curiosity was difficult to get over.
Plus, I learned something else. The mind is very capable of adapting to many things. That is, some very promiscuous gays that I know of, got into other things, like role playing. Sometimes pepole you meet want to role play and inflict some kind of pain. I never got into that. I felt as though that was not "natural" but I understood I might learn how to adapt to that. But that's another reality. Some people respond to pain and bondage more than sex. Some don't want to even have "sex", they just want someone to defecate or urinate on them. So what about that? Is that "natural" or "nurture"?
So there are lots and lots of issues in an imperfect world and in our imperfect state. But God can consider all that and look at other things besides the sexual dysfunction issues. You know, like are you charitable? Are you a racist? Do you try to help others or are you out to defraud? Everything is not going to get fixed on this side of Armageddon in an imperfect world. So maybe God is not going to judge gays so harshly under the circumstances. But as I noted, likely even God looks differently at gays in a monogamous, loving relationship than those out there just being "lustful" because it is easy.
Just my 2.5 cents.
