MIT Survey on science, religion and origins

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  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Back to the article, the author asked various religions if their belief in origins conflicted with the cosmological "big bang". The mainline churches have stepped away from a literal, biblical interpretation of origins; no conflict.

    Faith is a wiggly line - scientific inquiry, a straight one. That they sometimes cross (agree) is an accident of faith; not intentional.

  • tec
    tec

    I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with the big bang theory. Does more FOR coroborating a 'beginning' and a 'created universe/brought into existence' than the static universe theory had done. I would have thought (and I think many did) religions and/or people of faith embraced such a theory.

    peace,

    tammy

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    Tammy,

    You may find the following link informative on the divide between those who like the Big Bang Theory and those who do not.

    http://www.school-for-champions.com/religion/big_bang_theory_and_religion.htm

    Certain religionists resist it because the way they teach the Bible, the whole universe should be only be about 6,000 or 7,000 years old. The Big Bang Theory supports the science that shows the universe is billions of years old.

  • tec
    tec

    That was an extremely interesting read, Gopher, thanks.

    And yes, I can see how some who consider the earth and universe to be much younger would be against this. (though I disagree that there is any reason to think this way, or to take the 'days' of creation as literal 24 hour periods)

    Peace,

    tammy

  • Qcmbr
    Qcmbr

    Faith requires primacy over all other forms of knowledge. When formed it normally reflects the current scientific knowledge ( tec this is why you can delude yourself that you are in agreement with current science, you simply lifted current knowledge, mixed it with current morality and then added in the magic) but faith has no logical route to update itself without makong its former self look foolish. We have Catholics who were once at the forefront of science now having to recant young earth thinking in favour of current factual knowledge. The modern day mystic is on love with higgs bosuns and quantum effects and are scrabbling to say that of course thats what was true all along. Faith filled believers are darwinian to the core throwing untold millions of former beliefs under the cart wheel while boldly claiming that this time theyve got it right. Lock the faithful in a room with their god and their real knowledge ceases.

    Roll on the day when faith is recognised as the intellectual millstone it is.

  • Pterist
    Pterist

    Tammy*** I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with the big bang theory.****

    Agreed, the great research accomplished with the Hubble Telscope, pretty much confirms the "big bang" theory and the resultant "crunch". This "evidence" poses the question what existed BEFORE the "big bang". This is a bigger problem for atheists than theists considering their dogma that evidence is needed to prove anything, and they must admit they can't show any evidence and say, they do not know what preceded or caused the big bang !

    Shalom sister

  • cofty
    cofty
    and the resultant "crunch"

    No crunch. The expansion of the universe is accelerating, the day will come when there will no no visible stars in the sky.

    We are heading for heat death but don't worry it won't be for a while yet.

    they must admit they can't show any evidence and say, they do not know what preceded or caused the big bang !

    So, why is this a problem?

    Why do you think its a virtue to make up supernatural answers?

  • Pterist
    Pterist

    *** Why do you think its a virtue to make up supernatural answers****

    Is that what it is called when one accepts a first cause that causes the "big bang" rather than "we dont know" ???

    ...sounds like old religious jargon to me. I'm sure Plato and Aristotle would be really impressed by your accolades.

  • cofty
    cofty
    Is that what it is called when one accepts a first cause that causes the "big bang" rather than "we dont know" ???

    Yes

  • EdenOne
    EdenOne

    A mind driven by science alone is immune to fundamentalism only in theory. Actual facts show that atheists are just as prone to fundamentalism as religious-driven people. The object of their hatred may be different, but the fundamentalist traits are all there. It's a human trait, not a religious trait.

    Eden

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