My older two kids were 5 or 6 I think when they gave their first bible readings, but they never went through the questions to become unbaptised publishers. They were 12 and 10 went we left the borg. My youngest was only 4 when we left.
At what age do most or many JWs kids count as "publisher?"
by Gayle 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Gayle
Thanks blondie. When did they start that "unbaptized publisher procedure?" And what were the questions. This must have started after I left the org.
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MrFreeze
I can't honestly remember. Somewhere between 6 and 8.
Gayle, if I remember correctly, I was only asked a few questions. One was "Do you smoke?" I was around 7 years old. WTF
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LoisLane looking for Superman
Mr Freeze...Was the Elder drone saying it with a straight face, or with a twinkle in his eye? lol By the way. What happened to that idiot? Any idea?
Just Lois
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MrFreeze
It was kind of like "I know what the answer is but I have to ask it anyway." I think (I can't remember exactly though) that another question was "Do you have a girlfriend?"
He was still serving as an elder when I left. He was one of the elders that talked to me in the back room. He was recently transferred to another Kingdom Hall.
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LoisLane looking for Superman
Mr. Freeze, Thank you for answering.
Elders next question for Publisher approval.
Question #2...Do you have a girlfriend?
I think he was having some fun with you. lol
Just Lois
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Mum
It sounds like the JW equivalent of First Communion, but without all the celebration, gifts, family and fun, of course. -
blondie
Gayle, the procedure is the one they go through with any unbaptized person attending meetings who wants to be recognized as a publisher. Children can go door to door with their parents before this but they are not considered a publisher and do not turn time in. I'm sure they edit some of the questions for children. 50 years ago I remember sitting down with the congregation servant and being how serious it was to keep my vow about preaching each month and turning in my time. That was 6 years before I was baptized.
The Organized book says this
MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS
Before inviting a person to accompany you in the field
ministry for the first time and before you suggest that he report any
field service to the congregation, there are certain qualifications he
should meet. When a person accompanies us in the field ministry,
he identifies himself publicly with the congregation of Jehovah's
people, so it is understood that he has already brought his life into
harmony with Jehovah's righteous standards and can be an
unbaptized publisher in the congregation.
Very likely, as you study with a person and discuss Bible
principles with him, you will become aware of his circumstances.
You may observe that he is living in harmony with the information
he has learned from studying the Bible. But there are some aspects
of the student's life that the elders will want to discuss with him
and you together before you invite him to accompany you in the
field service and to share in publicly witnessing to others.
The presiding overseer will arrange to have two elders (one
being a member of the Congregation Service Committee) discuss
this matter with you and the Bible student. They will consider the
following points:
• Do the person's expressions show that he believes that the Bible is the
inspired Word of God? (2 Tim. 3:16)
Organized to Do Jehovah’s Will Page 80
• Does he know and believe the basic teachings of the Scriptures so that
when asked questions, he will answer in harmony with the Bible and not
according to false religious teachings or his own ideas? (Matt. 7:21-23;
2 Tim. 2:15)
• Is he heeding the Bible's command to associate with Jehovah's people
at congregation meetings if he physically and circumstantially can? (Ps.
122:1; Heb. 10: 24, 25)
• Does he know what the Bible teaches about fornication, adultery,
polygamy, and homosexuality, and is he living in harmony with such
teachings? If the person is living with one of the opposite sex, are they
properly married? (Matt. 19:9; 1 Cor. 6:9, 10; 1 Tim. 3:2, 12; Heb 13:4)
• Does he heed the Bible's prohibition of drunkenness? (Eph. 5:18; 1 Pet.
4:3, 4) Is he free from all nonmedical use of addictive or mind-altering
natural or synthetic substances? (2 Cor. 7:1)
• Does he see the value of avoiding unwholesome association? (1 Cor.
15:33)
• Has he definitely broken off membership in all false religious
organizations with which he may have been affiliated, and has he
ceased attending their meetings and supporting or sharing in their
activities? (2 Cor. 6: 14-18; Rev. 18:4)
• Is he free from all involvement in the political affairs of the world? (John
6:15; 15:19; Jas. 1:27)
• Does he believe and live in harmony with what the Bible says at Isaiah
2:4 about the affairs of the nations?
• Does he really want to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses? (Ps. 110:3)
If the elders are not sure how the student feels about some of
these matters, they should invite him to look up the scriptures here
cited and comment on
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them in order to see the significance of what they say. It is
important that he understand that those who share with Jehovah's
Witnesses in their preaching activity must be leading a life that
harmonizes with these Scriptural requirements. His expressions
will help the elders determine whether he knows what is expected
of him and whether he is qualified to a reasonable degree to begin
participating in the field ministry.
If he is qualified, the elders can warmly welcome the
individual as one who desires to become an active associate of
Jehovah's Witnesses. (Rom. 15:7) He should be encouraged to
begin sharing in the field ministry as soon as possible and to turn
in a field service report at the end of the month. The elders can
explain that when a Bible student qualifies as an un-baptized
publisher and reports field service for the first time, a
Congregation's Publisher Record card is made out in his name and
included in the congregation file. They can assure him that all the
elders take an interest in the field service reports that are turned in
each month.
Getting better acquainted with the new publisher and
showing a personal interest in what he has accomplished can have
a fine influence on the individual. It may move him to make even
greater efforts to serve Jehovah and to turn in field service reports
regularly each month.—Phil. 2:4; Heb. 13:2.
Once the elders determine that the Bible student qualifies to
engage in the field ministry, he is eligible to receive his own copy
of Organized to Do Jehovah's Will. After he reports field service
for the first time, a brief announcement should be made to the
congregation that he is a new unbaptized publisher.
Organized to Do Jehovah’s Will Page 82
http://web.archive.org/web/20060503074646/www.reexamine.info/00s/organized_to_do_jehovahs_will.pdf
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jwfacts
I started talks a long time before being a publisher. I didn't become an unbaptised publisher till about 12.