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Yesterday's WT Study par 17
by leaving_quietly 43 Replies latest watchtower bible
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DATA-DOG
So there was literally nothing about Jehovah involved there. It involved resignation from being committed to the teachings of the Watch Tower Society
The teachings were false as well. I think all Organized religion is bad. On a related subject, that same WT article gave the example of the Christians in Rome. They refused to worship the Emperor. I remember reading that Emperor Worship was view as ludicrous, even by Roman Senators. I have to find the quote.. So were Christians really asked to worship the Emperor, or were they just asked to recognize his divine Authority? If the Superior Authorities are placed in their positions by God, then why couldn't you admit that?
I would never salut the Flag of any country, because I do not pledge my allegiance to any flag, or government. I would respectfully, and publicly show respect for the Superior Authorities, and I respect the flag. I would help anyone remove it from the flagpole in the rain, I would help fold it, I would replace one at work that was tattered, and I would never burn one. I simply do not pledge my allegience to it. So back in Rome, why could I not show respect to the divinely constituted Authorities?
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wasblind
Folks continue to die needlessly from the false teachin' of the WTS
this religion is Jim Jones on steriods
It keeps on killin' over and over and over again
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likeabird
Renouncement or not they should never have been there in the first place.
The borg knowingly let and encouraged them to engage in acts that would get them sent to the camps.
That's where the real inhumanity of the borg comes to light.
I've been round the camps and that's the lesson I came home with and will never forget.
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00DAD
From the Proclaimer's book, p. 661.
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Mum
The Dalai Lama has told Buddhists that if it will save their lives to renounce him, he can take it. Why can't all of the other "great" beings take it?
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whathappened
Wow, this is good to know. So the Watchtower Society and their false teachings are yet again, found responsible for untold suffering.
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Lore
JWs can all die in a fire.
And some did!
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Anony Mous
My question is whether this claim has been verified by actual sources or if this is just made up. The WT now claims "thousands" in concentration camps and "countless" ones were killed. The Nazi's actually kept very, very good records. According to the American Holocaust Museum:
Of the 25,000 to 30,000 Germans who in 1933 were Jehovah's Witnesses, an estimated 20,000 remained active through the Nazi period. The remainder (1/3) fled Germany, renounced their faith, or confined their worship to the family. Of those remaining active, about half were convicted and sentenced at one time or another during the Nazi era for anywhere from one month to four years, with the average being about 18 months. Of those convicted or sentenced, between 2,000 to 2,500 were sent to concentration camps, as were a total of about 700 to 800 non-German Witnesses (this figure includes about 200-250 Dutch, 200 Austrians, 100 Poles, and between 10 and 50 Belgians, French, Czechs, and Hungarians).
The number of Jehovah's Witnesses who died in concentration camps and prisons during the Nazi era is estimated at 1,000 Germans and 400 from other countries, including about 90 Austrians and 120 Dutch. (The non-German Jehovah's Witnesses suffered a considerably higher percentage of deaths than their German co-religionists.) In addition, about 250 German Jehovah's Witnesses were executed -- mostly after being tried and convicted by military tribunals -- for refusing to serve in the German military.
However nowhere in contemporary literature that is not directly written by or influenced by the WTBTS is there any mention that they could avoid punishment by renouncing their faith on paper. I'm sure that plea bargains were available but there is nowhere that mentions such things were institutionalized as the WTBTS wants us to believe.
And I know this is anecdotal but my grandfather (non-JW) was interned in Buchenwald and Auschwitz because he was a saboteur for the resistance, the WTBTS claims that the witnesses were 'well known' and preached etc etc yet my grandfather doesn't remember any such thing or even any such group and said that the catholic and other religions were much more involved in proselytizing.
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