How many times has the WTS cried wolf?
Predicted Armageddon would come when?
by Marvin Shilmer 18 Replies latest jw friends
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Marvin Shilmer
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How many times has the WTS cried wolf?
Blondie,
You just planted a creative thought in my head.
I need to image a “Woof! Woof!” series on Watchtower.
Marvin Shilmer
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doofdaddy
It would be a mightily cruel god that would keep disappointing his loved ones with continuous false hopes...
Or one with a great sense of humour.
God to Satan "Hey I'm bored! Nuthin' much been happening lately except for a few tsunamis, how 'bout I get the jws to write another prediction?"
Satan replies "Oh no, not that old chestnut again!"
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ballistic
This web site has been up over a decade and back at the start I said, to the affect of, how will it be when we anear 2014, 1914, will seem so ancient, obscure and irrelavent.
Well here we are.
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ohiocowboy
I was raised being told that the New System would come before I ever graduated High School. I used to believe it with my whole heart. Last year I got an email for my 30 year High School reunion, and it brought back all of the memories of how I felt believing that the end was just moments away back then, and what a fool I was for believing it.
Back in the early 70's we were lead to believe that 1975 was going to be the end, and when it came and passed, we were all blamed for going beyond what was written. Instead of admitting their error, the Watchtower blamed the ones who became disappointed when the end didn't come.
They still dangle that unreachable carrot to unsuspecting people to keep them following an trudging along. That carrot has been all dried up and moldy for decades now, but people are still trying to reach for it. Sad.
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Finkelstein
Why does the WTS/JWs retain so little of a following after preaching so much over the past 100 + years and in so many lands ?
answer - its doctrines .
They reek of Bullshit simply put and people instinctively can see that.
Even the first president of the WTS. William Conley left holding his nose only to support another religious group.
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blondie
When I was a teenager, the international total of jws was around 900,000. No one then would imagine that there would be almost 8 million jws today. The years of 1978 and 1979 showed a decrease but not since then.
Up until 1922, the WTS focus was on gathering the remaining of the 144,000, not a worldwide earthly group. That did not really kick in until the 1930's. The "preaching" work was not organized as it is today; bible studies in a book didn't really start until 1940; people actually giving a door to door sermon didn't start until the 1950's, before that it was handing people a testimony card or playing a record. There was no theocratic school until 1943 and only for men, not until 1958/9 were women trained.
The WTS has dumbed down presentations as well as the publications. How many jws today were contacted d2d? Not many in this area. In the last 10 years, except for the children of current jws, no one has become a jw in the congregations in my area.
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Finkelstein
Good info Blondie
And just for doing that you were to be chosen one of the special 144,000 ...... gee
Quite the stupid marketing scheme for a religious publishing house to create but there rarely is a great amount of intelligence with
charlatans when you think about it..
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Cold Steel
Yes, by what authority did the WTS conclude that Armageddon was the “antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom” when neither the Old or New Testament writers indicate this is the case? John writes, for example, of the temple the Jews will build in the latter days (Revelation 11), and the deaths of the two prophets the Lord will raise up to the Jewish people during the battle of Armageddon. “ And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt,” he writes, “where also our Lord was crucified. ” (Rev. 11:8)
Here, Armageddon’s wrath isn’t aimed at Jerusalem. Jerusalem is merely the “modern antitype” of “Christendom.” But to the apostle John, the antitype of Jerusalem was “Sodom and Egypt.”
How, then, could Armageddon be “against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom”?
Amos wrote that the Lord God will do nothing save he reveal it to his servants the prophets. (3:7) The reason WTS founders did not apply the prophecies to Jerusalem is because they didn’t know the Lord was going to subsequently gather Judah back to the lands of their inheritance, even though the Lord revealed it centuries before. For example, Isaiah writes:
And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. (Isa. 11:11-12)
This is a literal prophecy that had a literal fulfillment, though it’s an ongoing one. To the prophets, they knew how things would end; however, for the blind leaders of the blind, one has to grasp the closest straw one can find!
