Chavez is officialy DEAD!!

by wolfman85 37 Replies latest social current

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Chavez was democratically elected by the people, in the face of the negative propaganda put out by the corporate media in venezuela. How is he then a dictator? He made tremedous improvements for the people, generally, and especially for the poor. He gently f###d the corps, especially the oil companies. Some things got out of hand, but generally, he made things better for most of the people in his country.

    Now, for those that hate the guy, why is that? The american media, all owned by large corporations that produce only corporate friendly media and all anti chavez stuff. Do you hate him because that media has programmed you to hate him? Is he an affront to your elitist corporate capitalist me first ideals? Do you love the elite fat pigs that run the corps over the masses of the venezuelan people? All of the above, or none of the above? Are venezuelans just human chaff to you, good only as fodder for the capitalist machines that eat everything in their path?

    S

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech

    now, if mr. satanus owned a oil company, and mr. barack obama seized it (in the name of the country, but actually was funneling $billion$ to his family fund), then your comment would be diffrent

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    From Nation Master using their stats - may or may not be absolute depending on the policies in either country in regards to crime but the stats from this company are used all the time - sammieswife

    Crime stats: United States vs Venezuela

    American Crime stats
    Venezuelan Crime stats
    Adults prosecuted14,203,8009,660
    Ranked 1st. 1469 times more than VenezuelaRanked 23rd.
    Embezzlements17,3004,111
    Ranked 3rd. 3 times more than VenezuelaRanked 15th.
    Frauds371,80011,741
    Ranked 2nd. 31 times more than VenezuelaRanked 23rd.
    Jails1,55848
    Ranked 5th. 31 times more than VenezuelaRanked 25th.
    Judges and Magistrates29,023630
    Ranked 2nd. 45 times more than VenezuelaRanked 25th.
    Murders committed by youths8,2262,090
    Ranked 3rd. 3 times more than VenezuelaRanked 7th.
    Murders committed by youths per capita11.025.0
    Ranked 14th.Ranked 6th. 127% more than United States
    Police
    Prisoners2,019,234 prisoners19,255 prisoners
    Ranked 1st. 104 times more than VenezuelaRanked 22nd.
    Prisoners > Female8.5%5.7%
    Ranked 9th. 49% more than VenezuelaRanked 35th.
    Prisoners > Per capita715.0 per 100,000 people76.0 per 100,000 people
    Ranked 1st. 8 times more than VenezuelaRanked 107th.
    Prisoners > Pre-trial detainees20%52.1%
    Ranked 107th.Ranked 31st. 161% more than United States
    Prisoners > Share of prison capacity filled0%97.2%
    Ranked 126th.Ranked 96th.
    Sentence Length291,422
    Ranked 16th.Ranked 7th. 48 times more than United States
    Software piracy rate20%87%
    Ranked 107th.Ranked 9th. 3 times more than United States
    Total crimes11,877,218236,165
    Ranked 1st. 49 times more than VenezuelaRanked 30th.
  • DaCheech
  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Poor oil company. Oil companies are so used to going into any country, any area and just taking whatever they want, and leaving behind whatever mess they make when they are done. It must really hurt to have somebody successfully stand up to them and them getting done instead of them doing others.

    S

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech

    ooooooooh, and chavez made those oil wells so environment friendly!!!

    "don't be a dope"

  • soontobe
    soontobe

    Sammy is an apologist for a monster.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/12/bernard-henri-levy-on-the-idiotic-posthumous-cult-of-hugo-chavez.html

    Bernard-Henri Lévy On the Idiotic Posthumous Cult of Hugo Chávez

    Mar 12, 2013 8:01 PM EDT

    Leaving aside his anti-Semitism and his dictator allies, why would the left celebrate a man who repressed his people and wrecked the economy? It’s an insult to Venezuelans, says Bernard Henri-Lévy.

    The death of Hugo Chávez, followed by his elaborate funeral, has unleashed awave of political idiocy, and thus of disinformation, of a magnitude not seen in some time.

    I will not dwell—because this much is well known—on Chávez the “friend of the people” whose closest allies were bloody-handed dictators: Ahmadinejad, Bashar al-Assad, Fidel Castro, and, formerly, Gaddafi.

    Nor will I dwell long, because this, too, is public knowledge, on the Chávez whose pathological anti-Semitism over his 14-year rule drove two thirds of Venezuela’s Jewish community into exile. (It is hard to image that this Chávez is viewed by a minister in François Hollande’s government in France as a “cross between Léon Blum and de Gaulle.”) Was not Chavez the devotee of the conspiracy theories of Thierry Meyssan, the disciple of Argentine Holocaust denier Norberto Ceresole, who professed his surprise that Israelis “like to criticize Hitler” even though they “have done the same and perhaps worse”? How was a Jew in Caracas expected to react upon seeing his president stigmatize a minority made up of “descendants of those who crucified Jesus Christ” and who had, according to Chávez, “made off with the world’s wealth”?

    What is less known, something that we will regret overlooking as the posthumous cult of Chávez swells and grows more toxic, is that this “21st-century socialist,” this supposedly tireless “defender of human rights,” ruled by muzzling the media, shutting down television stations that were critical of him, and denying the opposition access to the state news networks.

    What is less known, or deliberately not mentioned by those who would make of Chávez a source of inspiration for a left that seems to lack it, is that this wonderful leader, seemingly so concerned with workers and their rights, tolerated unions only if they were official. He allowed strikes only if controlled or even orchestrated by the regime. And, up to the end, he prosecuted, criminalized, and threw into prison independent trade unionists who, like Ruben Gonzalez, the representative of the Ferrominera mineworkers, refused to wait for Bolivarism to be fully realized before demanding decent working conditions, protection against mining accidents, and fair wages.

    What has been omitted from most of the portraits broadcast during these sessions of global mourning—and what must be remembered if we want to avoid seeing post-Chavezism turn into an even worse nightmare—is the repression of the Yukpa Indians of the Sierra de Perija, carried out in the name of “cultural integration”; the targeted assassinations, covered up by the regime, of those of their chiefs who, like Sabino Romero in 2009, refused to bow down to Chávez; and, generally, the putting to sleep of democratic and popular movements that did not have the good fortune to be on Chávez’s agenda. Take women’s issues. It must not be forgotten that the rights of women suffered dramatic regressions during El Comandante’s reign. And would it be unfair to the deceased leader to observe that two provisions of family law—one protecting women victims of domestic violence; the other, divorced women—were repealed by the regime for being too petit-bourgeois by the standard of the prevailing machismo?

    As for the good souls who remind us that Chávez’s national populism had “at least” the benefit of feeding the hungry, caring for the most vulnerable, and reducing poverty, they neglect to mention that these reforms were made possible only by budgetary recklessness, itself funded by colossal oil revenue inflated by the high price of crude. The result has been that the real economy of the country, the modernization of its infrastructure and equipment, and the formation of businesses capable of creating sustainable wealth were heedlessly sacrificed on the altar of a form of Caesarism designed more to buy social peace than to build the Venezuela of tomorrow.

    Chávez imported, for a king’s ransom, tens of thousands of Cuban mercenary doctors—but let Venezuela’s hospitals die.

    Rather than take the trouble to expand domestic production, he imported 70 percent of the bread he distributed to the people, without ever wondering what might happen if the price of a barrel of crude, now about $110, were to fall back down to near $20, where it was the year he came to power. This is the policy of the ostrich or the cicada. Very simply it is a policy of mortgaging the future.

    And although the regime indeed provided work for many of those who had none, it has run up against that iron law of economics, which penalizes systems based on rent-seeking, widespread corruption, clientelism on a grand scale, and, last but not least, the creation of artificial wealth. Increases in the minimal wage, today about $250 a month, have, over 14 years, been overtaken by inflation. Half of the active population still just scrapes by, often by doing odd jobs on the margin of the formal economy. As a result, it is not unlikely that this long decade of oil-supported socialism will show a net deficit for those segments of the population who were supposed to benefit most (if at the price of renouncing freedoms that, like cancer, were supposedly imperialist exports) from the manna rained down on them by the profligate dictator.

    May Chávez the man rest in peace.

    But to pretend that the overall record of Chavezism has been positive is an insult to the Venezuelan people.

    And to present Chavezism as an alternative for the people of the region would be evidence of an irresponsibility of which we had believed today’s left to have been cured.

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech

    proof is in the pudding!

    Left wants communism where all corps are seized and wealth is re-distributed to the XXYYXXYY.

    Unfortunately blind cults don't realize that there's always somebody at the top getting rich (chavez left how many $$billions$$$?)???

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