How many former Jehovah's Witnesses bury their head in the sand when it comes to reasoning about the NGO "conspiracy"?

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  • Change Name
    Change Name

    Hi all - sure sure, you can call me a troll or brainwashed cult member. I am totally interested in how your answers to these questions.

    Do you find yourself ignoring anything that Jehovah's Witnesses bring out in regards to their former status as an NGO?

    Take this information for example:

    Know Your NGOs!

    W hen you hear that the Watchtower Society was registered with the United Nations as an NGO, you may not be aware that there is actually more than one kind of NGO. This fact is important, and is often deliberately obscured by those who try to condemn and criticize the Society.

    In the United Nations system, there are NGOs who are associated with the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), and there are also NGOs associated with the Department of Public Information (DPI). The Watchtower Society was of the latter kind — associated with the DPI.

    However, many websites and at least one book deliberately misleads their readers by quoting rules and stipulations to ECOSOC NGOs, and then pretending that those resolutions and rules apply to DPI NGOs, of which the Watchtower Society was one. This tactic is grossly dishonest and many of those who make this claim know full well they are misleading their readers. Let us now examine the true differences between the NGO types, which apostates and other opposers often try to keep hidden.

    What’s the difference?

    The difference between the two types is quite stark. The online political magazine Insight has this to say on the matter:

    “For an NGO to be recognized by the United Nations, however, there are requirements, and even two statuses for which an NGO might apply. The DPI status is under the authority of the U.N. Department of Public Information (UNDPI), which controls U.N. archives and research facilities...
    “The other status for which the NGOs may apply is ECOSOC (Economic and Social Council) status. The U.N. Website says that to obtain ECOSOC standing an NGO must prove that its work is directly relevant to U.N. goals. With ECOSOC standing an NGO may enter into a formal consultative relationship with access to officials of U.N. member states and must provide useful or special information to the U.N. Economic and Social Council...”

    Notice how DPI NGOs are under a department which controls “archives and research facilities”, yet on the other hand ECOSOC NGOs have a “formal consultative relationship” with the United Nations, and it's work must be “directly relevant” to the UN's goals. In other words, the ECOSOC NGO consults with the UN on it's policies and helps it achieve it's political aims and direct it's policy-making.

    This is exactly what apostates are accusing the Watchtower Society of doing. Yet, this is not a description of the type of NGO the Watchtower Society was, but it is a description of the other type of NGO — that associated with the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC).

    The Watchtower Society was a totally different type of NGO associated with a different UN department — the Department of Public Information (DPI). Accusers deny this, and claim the differences are “irrelevant facts”, when we can clearly see that is not how the UN feels about the matter. Let us now examine the original Resolutions of the United Nations to show the difference between ECOSOC and DPI NGOs."

    http://jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/

    Do you find yourself automatically discounting this interesting information?

    Do you find yourself searching for a counter argument to this information in order to keep your belief that the "Watchtower" is an evil publishing corperation?

    If you answer yes to either of those questions, what does not mean about you personally?

    Looking forward to your answers/rants.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    How is your time coming along?

    S

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    I work in a casino. I ask the elders if it matters if i am a cleaner or the dealer at a poker table or in management there.

    What is their reply? What is your reply?

  • Change Name
    Change Name

    Hi Satanus - Why would I need to count time? I have not been out in field service since July of last year and have no reason to record any time.

    It is interesting that you refuse to answer questions that make you think about yourself and your reaction to certain information. Remember, your answers may help me decide my future with these people. More negative answers (or non-answers like the one you gave me) will validate that they may hold sort of truth.

    Hi Witness My Fury - Does it really matter what I think about your profession? I think this topic was asking your reactions to certain information and what it could possible mean about you.

  • Ucantnome
    Ucantnome

    If you answer yes to either of those questions, what does not mean about you personally?

    nothing

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    As far as i'm concerned, if the jws do it for you, then go w them. Its not my job to keep you out of that cult. You seem to be an adult of reasonable intelligence who can decide matters of religion for himself. Whats more i have absolutely no responsibility for your choice of religion. And, most importantly, you are merely using that as a goad. Its a wt ploy.

    S

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    it was an example you NumbNuts to make you see the pathetic distinction you are attempting to draw about the UN NGO. I'm guessing you knew this and chose to avoid it.

  • Change Name
    Change Name

    Hi Uncantnome and Satanus - yep... keep your heads buried in the sand. Do not ask yourself the hard questions.

    Do you find yourself ignoring anything that Jehovah's Witnesses bring out in regards to their former status as an NGO?

    Do you find yourself automatically discounting this interesting information? [link]

    Do you find yourself searching for a counter argument to this information in order to keep your belief that the "Watchtower" is an evil publishing corperation?

    If you answer yes to any of those questions, what does that mean about you personally?

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    The Watchtower Society was a totally different type of NGO associated with a different UN department....Name Change

    You admit the WBT$ had an Association with the UN..

    So..

    That`s why the WBT$ is Innocent o f having an Association with the UN?..

    Your winning a lot of These..


    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkhirlBIYh1qbvnui.jpg

    .............................. photo mutley-ani1.gif...OUTLAW

  • Amelia Ashton
    Amelia Ashton

    Did Jehovah's Witnesses fulfill criteria for membership?

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