Will Tort Litigations Involving Child Molestations Cause The Governing Body To Make Sweeping Policy Changes?

by frankiespeakin 10 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    These guys on the Governing Body are all old and set in their ways much like the cardinals of the catholic church, and yet they the cardinals are responding somewhat quicker than the much younger Governing Body in making and enforcing policy change to protect the children.

    Perhaps they can't learn the lesson from their long time self made enemy the clergy of christendom.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/religion/church_in_crisis.html

    http://www.albanylaw.edu/media/user/faculty/lytton/Framing-Clergy-Sexual-Abuse-WM-Law-Rvw.pdf

    What is ''tortlitigation''

    A tort is an act that injures someone in some way, and for which the injured person may sue the wrongdoer for damages.

    http://www.albanylaw.edu/media/user/faculty/lytton/Framing-Clergy-Sexual-Abuse-WM-Law-Rvw.pdf

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/07/roman-catholic-child-molestation-files_n_2425444.html

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    It appears that NOTHING other than Tort litigations will move the GB to do anything monumental in change. It's all about the money.

    Doc

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/church_11-13-02.html

    http://www.vatican.va/resources/resources_guide-CDF-procedures_en.html

    Guide to Understanding Basic CDF Procedures
    concerning Sexual Abuse Allegations

    The applicable law is the Motu Proprio Sacramentorum sanctitatis tutela (MP SST) of 30 April 2001 together with the 1983 Code of Canon Law. This is an introductory guide which may be helpful to lay persons and non-canonists.

    A: Preliminary Procedures

    The local diocese investigates every allegation of sexual abuse of a minor by a cleric.

    If the allegation has a semblance of truth the case is referred to the CDF. The local bishop transmits all the necessary information to the CDF and expresses his opinion on the procedures to be followed and the measures to be adopted in the short and long term.

    Civil law concerning reporting of crimes to the appropriate authorities should always be followed.

    During the preliminary stage and until the case is concluded, the bishop may impose precautionary measures to safeguard the community, including the victims. Indeed, the local bishop always retains power to protect children by restricting the activities of any priest in his diocese. This is part of his ordinary authority, which he is encouraged to exercise to whatever extent is necessary to assure that children do not come to harm, and this power can be exercised at the bishop's discretion before, during and after any canonical proceeding.

    B: Procedures authorized by the CDF

    The CDF studies the case presented by the local bishop and also asks for supplementary information where necessary.

    The CDF has a number of options:

    B1 Penal Processes

    The CDF may authorize the local bishop to conduct a judicial penal trial before a local Church tribunal. Any appeal in such cases would eventually be lodged to a tribunal of the CDF.

    The CDF may authorize the local bishop to conduct an administrative penal process before a delegate of the local bishop assisted by two assessors. The accused priest is called to respond to the accusations and to review the evidence. The accused has a right to present recourse to the CDF against a decree condemning him to a canonical penalty. The decision of the Cardinals members of the CDF is final.

    Should the cleric be judged guilty, both judicial and administrative penal processes can condemn a cleric to a number of canonical penalties, the most serious of which is dismissal from the clerical state. The question of damages can also be treated directly during these procedures.

    B2 Cases referred directly to the Holy Father

    In very grave cases where a civil criminal trial has found the cleric guilty of sexual abuse of minors or where the evidence is overwhelming, the CDF may choose to take the case directly to the Holy Father with the request that the Pope issue a decree of "ex officio" dismissal from the clerical state. There is no canonical remedy against such a papal decree.

    The CDF also brings to the Holy Father requests by accused priests who, cognizant of their crimes, ask to be dispensed from the obligation of the priesthood and want to return to the lay state. The Holy Father grants these requests for the good of the Church ("pro bono Ecclesiae").

    B3 Disciplinary Measures

    In cases where the accused priest has admitted to his crimes and has accepted to live a life of prayer and penance, the CDF authorizes the local bishop to issue a decree prohibiting or restricting the public ministry of such a priest. Such decrees are imposed through a penal precept which would entail a canonical penalty for a violation of the conditions of the decree, not excluding dismissal from the clerical state. Administrative recourse to the CDF is possible against such decrees. The decision of the CDF is final.

    C. Revision of MP SST

    For some time the CDF has undertaken a revision of some of the articles of Motu Proprio Sacramentorum Sanctitatis tutela, in order to update the said Motu Proprio of 2001 in the light of special faculties granted to the CDF by Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI. The proposed modifications under discussion will not change the above-mentioned procedures (A, B1-B3).

  • DanmeraDinglebum
    DanmeraDinglebum

    Losing the Conti case hasn't produced any changes, they only dug their heels in deeper. No they will not be reporting to the police, the legal department will decide if the person who molested the child is a child molester (yeah I can't figure that one out either) and that child molesters CAN get their positions back. There is an October 2012 letter to the BOE that spells it all out. You can probably do a search on here and find it.

  • zeb
    zeb

    Until the bastards of the GB (that doesnt really exist it is only a convenient theological arrangement remember ) are marched off to jail in handcuffs under the full blazing light of the 6 pm news then nothing will change.

    Its a pity those planes hit where they did .

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    They may be forced to, there's been quite a lot of puplicity in the news. A child abuse victim (from a priest) who recently won a case, is now also seeking to prosecute Cardinal Mahoney.

  • Chaserious
    Chaserious

    Mahony is a scumbag. His solution for repeated molester priests was to send them to therapy... with instructions not to tell the therapist about the abuse issues. But there is no chance he will be prosecuted for abuse-related crimes. The statute of limitations has long since run out.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    The GB only makes changes when there is the proverbial gun to it's head. For example, IN California, the issue of sales tax came up. The GB had to institute the donation arrangement because there was no other choice. Change it or pay sales tax.

    The Conti case was a bruise, but not the kind of head blowq that would cripple them and force change. They simply set up an arrangement of each publisher paying a few dollares and the fine is covered. Didn't touch them or their assets in a significant way.

    It will take a case where the abuse leads to the GB, before the gun will be pointed at their head.

    Until then, be prepared for more of the same indifferance from the GB

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    frankiespeakin - "Will tort ltigations involving child molestations cause the Governing Body to make sweeping policy changes?"

    No, for a variety of reasons.

    What some of us have failed to realize is that, for the WT, policies are viewed as the equivalent of doctrines, and vice versa (officially or otherwise).

    Not to mention that the WTS is fundamentally conservative; i.e. it's evolved to the point where change can only occur at a snail's pace. As a result, it's internal structure makes "sweeping" change virtually impossible (in a world where the Information Age has made rapid change an almost daily occurance, ironically).

    Also, the GB is utterly convinced of its own rightness and the belief that God's got their back. Does anyone here seriously think that they'll let elements of "Satan's World" dictate how they conduct internal business?

    When faced with a potentially losing hand, any authoritarian leadership will almost always double down and/or call with a bluff; their very nature doesn't really allow for any other kind of play.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    They have allowed elements of Satan's world dictate policy. They just spin it. With the change to the donation agreement, it was spun as a slap to the world of Christiandom. There were quite a few scandles regarding some of the evangelical religions and funds at the time. Which later affected how business is conducted at the WT.

    It happens, they just call it by a different name.

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