Feddy Franz Gives Us A Talk On Many Wrong Expectations And Understandings Of The Watchtower Corporation

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  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    He's a real nut case if ever there was one.

    He had a lot of Watchtower Corporation bible knowledge but jeesh what a ding bat.

    And as far as getting dates right well let just say Freddy had his own bible times table, he shoulda finished college instead of hook up with Rutherford.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    I just listen to it again and the way he uses the word "truth" as interchangable with bible interpetations promulgated by the WT corporation is beyond rediculous, it is highly delusional. This guy is a real nut case worse than Russell and Rutherford put together.

    "Million Now Living Will Never Die" according to Freddy was a public talk given by so many in the Corporation that they just rubbed that thought into the heads of the public, really made me laugh at his nutty word choices.

  • Bungi Bill
    Bungi Bill

    I tried to listen to this one, but after approximately 40 seconds, I became so violently sick that I had to give it away!

    Bill.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    I think Freddy in this talk shows how delusional he is and was.

    Not delusional at all, in the way of what he was propagating was going to enhance the sales of the published works of the WTS.

    There one thing to keep in mind in regards to the leaders of the WTS. is that they have always known of the basic believability

    of the bible among the general population, from there they could and did exploit that present believability to serve their own means in the proliferation

    of their own printed literature.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    At least he wasn't with holding in telling of the complacent stupidity of his predecessors.

    You got to give him that at least.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Freddy Franz is a master at useing delusional thinking to keep Cognitive Dissonance from getting too painful.

    http://www.ithaca.edu/faculty/stephens/cdback.html

    Two cognitions are said to be dissonant if one cognition follows from the opposite of another. What happens to people when they discover dissonant cognitions? The answer to this question forms the basic postulate of Festinger¹s theory. A person who has dissonant or discrepant cognitions is said to be in a state of psychological dissonance, which is experienced as unpleasant psychological tension. This tension state has drivelike properties that are much like those of hunger and thirst. When a person has been deprived of food for several hours, he/she experiences unpleasant tension and is driven to reduce the unpleasant tension state that results. Reducing the psychological sate of dissonance is not as simple as eating or drinking however.

    If dissonance is experienced as an unpleasant drive state,the individual is motivated to reduce it. Now that the factors that affect the magnitude of this unpleasantness have been identified, it should be possible to predict what we can do to reduce it:

    • Changing Cognitions

      If two cognitions ar discrepant, we can simply change one to make it consistent with the other. Or we can change each cognition in the direction of the other.

    • Adding Cognitions

      If two cognitions cause a certain magnitude of dissonance, that magnitude can be reduced by adding one or more consonant cognitions.

    • Altering importance

      Since the discrepant and consonant cognitions must be weighed by importance, it may be advantageous to alter the importance of the various cognitions.

    http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleID=160238

    Abstract

    Phenomena associated with contemporary charismatic religious sects raise questions about the combined impact of group influence and intensely held beliefs on group members' psychological functioning. The author considers the stages of membership in these sects, with emphasis on psychiatric aspects of conversion, long-term membership, and leaving. He discusses options for psychiatric intervention, including psychotherapy, conservatorships, and deprogramming. Systems theory is used to provide a psychological model for the relationship between group influence in these sects and current conceptions of individual psychopathology and normal adaptation.

    http://www.wheatandtares.org/2012/03/15/cognitive-dissonance-self-deception-and-delusions/

    The risk of the annihilation of our ideas and our world view often means that we lie to ourselves about it. We minimise, ignore, pretend, in order to maintain the world view that we hold. We do this in order to maintain a security personal identity. Deconstructing our ideas about the world can destabilize us and leave us feeling confused. In order to preserve our sense of self we lie to ourselves. Perhaps, we do not have the strength to confront the truth or our mind has a need to maintain order. The truth can be painful, upsetting, chaotic and messy. Mental peace involves minimising the risk of disruptive truths. As the writer of the article points out:

    No matter how much evidence we accumulate, our truths will always be approximations and absolute certainty will exist only in our fantasies. Lying gives us the temporary delusion that our personal and social worlds are intact, that we are loved, that we are safe, and above all, that we are not likely to overwhelmed by the uncertainty inherent in living in a world we can never truly know.

    The disruption of our ideas can be both a blessing and a curse. When Dorothy discovers that the Wizard does not have all the answers to her problems she becomes a stronger person. On the other hand, when Othello believes his wife Desdemona is unfaithful, he acts on his belief and kills her. When he discovers his belief was wrong, he is driven to suicide; his cognitive dissonance literally destroyed Othello’s self. Bringing it back to the original point, many within and without the church claim to be certain that the church is either true or not true. The fact that someone can be so certain about it not being true leads me to wonder if they have simply substituted one form of fantasy for another, one mistaken certainty for another equally mistaken certainty. The discovery of contradictions and paradoxes within the church can be a means to strengthen us as individuals or it can be destructive. In either case care must be made that we do not substitute one delusion for another.

  • GromitSK
    GromitSK

    Oxford College University? What the hell's that?

    He sounds like Astronut. Anyone remember him?

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=6-Mn17n5Plo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6-Mn17n5Plo

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