Honestly, the idiocy is really shocking. I know you said she's a sweet lady but...Come on. I think she deserved to have a bit of a wake up call.
There was a knock at the door....
by exwhyzee 33 Replies latest jw friends
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thaisun
There was a time when my wife and I were searching for the real truth. She had been a missionary in Peru, and I a special Pioneer, so we knew the WT Society . . . I had invited a Pentecostal pastor round for a chat and to work through some of our questions. Naturally, the Trinity came up. We expressed confusion. He said to my wife "If you do not believe Jesus is God, you'll go straight to hell!" Very loving. My wife was very pregnant. She stormed out, saying "I do not believe in a loving God who knows what I am going through, doing a thing like that." Trembling, she went to bed. Her waters broke that night. Our son was born several weeks early.
BUT . . . This pastor got my wife to check. She got out the NW Translation, the Diaglott, the NW Interlinear, the Good News Bible, the King James. She compared diligently. She took notes. Lots of notes. We both decided not to consult church members, or the Witnesses. Just work out what God was saying through the Scrtiptures. After two years (all the while keeping me updated) she and I agreed the WT was NOT God's organisation. We started looking for a true Christian church.
There is a lot more to the story, but the Witness and her son who came to your door, may just be motivated to check as my wife was. (I had by that time put it in the "too hard" basket.) Do not lose heart. Pray for her and her son.
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jwfacts
Wow, the way you handled that was fantastic. It is great that your outlook has improved so much that she noticed it immediately. Your conversation will never leave her son.
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carla
You did an excellent job! and besides she is the one who asked you! People should not ask questions they don't want the answers to.
also marking to print this later
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wha happened?
She knocked on your door and asked the questions. Never aska question you aren't prepared to hear an answer for. Besides if u apologize, it sounds like your ideals and convictions are negotiable. Stick to your guns, you did a great job
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Heaven
exwhyzee, you did a great job expressing yourself. I am not sure why you feel you need to apologize. I think you've planted some good seeds. Maybe they will research some of what you stated.
The last time the JWs were at my door I told them truth from my heart. About how my Mom had been so miserable and I couldn't understand how, if she had such a wonderful hope in Jehovah, why she was so miserable. They can't wait to get off my porch when I do that. As a matter of fact, I've never seen those 2 witness women again.
She said " Oh but everything has changed, it's so different now... the literature is so encouraging".
I've been told the same tripe. It's just a bunch of BS to try to convince you that everything is ok for you to come back now. Don't buy it... I didn't.
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TheSophist
You deserve a pat on the back. You did very well under duress, which means it really came from the heart. You may have changed their lives!!! As for the guilt....life ain't always beautiful, and sometimes being direct is what it takes get someone thinking.
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exwhyzee
I'm just now finally able to sit down and read all of your comments and advice. Thank you all for taking the time to read my little anecdote and taking the time to offer encouragement and advice. It means a lot to me to be able to vent a little and have individuals from all walks of life and form far flung locations, know what I'm talking about. If I'd have related any of this to my co-workers for instance, they'd have wondered why it practically took a building to fall on me before I realized that I had built my life around a bizarre set of circumstances or had been living in an altered state of reality since childhood.
I haven't had any success in locating that Sister's phone number and it's just as well really. Since I made my original post and now after reading your comments, I'm realizing that I really have no need to feel as if it was inappropriate for me to have answered her inquiry with anything but the unvarnished truth of my own circumstance. If I'd have called her I might have made a real "dogs breakfast" out of the whole thing anyway.
The thing is....after a few uncomfortable past attempts at explaining why we left the Org. and to enlighten others about the things we learned after leaving it, I sort of decided never to bother trying to enlighten or save any of them again. I've found that most of them know full well, at least on some level, that all is not as it seems . They WANT to be lied to and they are quite adept at ignoring anything they don't want to hear. Whats more, they are quite prepared to punish anyone who brings this unwanted information to thier attention. You become the problem. They in a sense kill the messenger for pointing out, for instance, that every date they ever beleived was significant, turned out to be just another day on the calander.
Anyway, I need to stop projecting my own sentiments onto other people and being overly concerned about feelings they may not even be having. She probably went on her merry way not giving our conversation another thought while I continued through the day concerned that I may have spoiled someone's morning or worse.
Pfffft..... anyway....thanks for listening guys !
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smiddy
If you apologised you would undo everything you said.
smiddy
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exwhyzee
Oh....P.S.....some were wondering about my Son. He got too sick to get all of his Chemo treatments....could only take 11 of them which put him into Intensive care. Even so, I'm happy to report he has been checked monthly for a time and now every 6 months and has been Cancer free for 4+ years. He and his darling Fiance' got married while they were disfellowshipped, no one but us and her parents would attend. What a beacon of light she was comming to see him in the Hospital and staying with us every few days from her small town about 2 hours from here. I'm happy to say they are a great match and are the best of pals. They weren't allowed to be reinstated for over a year and a half after they were married. He was reinstated first but the elders in her old Hall thought she needed an extra dose of punishment because she didn't break off her engagement with him and went ahead with the marriage even though they advised against it. They still attend meetings but this whole ordeal really opened their eyes and has sort of dispelled any magical illusions they might have had about the men running the show. Until she was finally reinstated, she would leave right after meeting and sit in the car while he stayed and visited. She thought it was good therapy for him to be able to talk to his friends while he was still recovering from the Chemo and didn't want to spoil it for him. What a great young lady she is and I wouldn't change anything that happened if it meant she wouldn't end up being in our family.