Exciting new adjustments in understanding in the July 15th WT! (page 2)

Sayswho

In its 2013 magazine, the GB thus says that it “appears” all anointed ones will go to heaven before Armageddon
breaks out.

So why would Jehovah's Spirit be deliberately misleading them or at the very least being vague.

Sw

a watcher

wha, the GB never said the anointed are irrelevant, only that most of the anointed are not FDS.

Non-JW's are trying to split JW's over this issue. It's not going to work.

We know the One whom we believe.

blondie

*** w69 12/1 p. 735 Questions From Readers ***

? Can the word “angel” properly be applied to resurrected anointed Christians?—R. C., U.S.A.

The Bible does not use the word “angel” in speaking of anointed Christians who have been resurrected to heavenly life. However, by noting the way the Bible does use the Hebrew and Greek words that can be translated “angel” one can see why it apparently would not be amiss to apply in a general sense the term “angel” to these Christians who become heavenly spirit creatures.

Both the Hebrew (mal’akh′) and Greek (ag′gelos) words translated “angel” in the Bible literally mean “messenger.” In the Bible they are applied to spirit messengers of Jehovah. But they are also used with reference to human messengers. (2 Sam. 5:11; 11:25; Jas. 2:25) The apostle John was told to write to the “angels of the seven congregations.” (Rev. 1:20) He would logically not be writing to spirit creatures in heaven but to the anointed human overseers of seven congregations in Asia Minor. Thus it can be seen that the Scriptures do not restrict to spirit creatures the Hebrew and Greek words that can be translated “angel.”

The exalted Jesus Christ and the anointed Christians resurrected to rule in heaven with him are actually on a higher level than the spirit creatures normally called angels. Jesus and his anointed followers in heaven are immortal. (1 Tim. 6:15, 16; 1 Cor. 15:51-54) In contrast, the angels are mortal, as can be seen from the fact that Satan and his disobedient angels will be destroyed. (Rev. 20:10, 14; Luke 8:30, 31) Additionally, the Bible shows that Christ has been elevated above the angels and that his anointed followers will share in judging angels.—Heb. 1:4; Phil. 2:9-11; 1 Cor. 6:3.

Nonetheless, Jesus after his resurrection is still called Michael the archangel. (Jude 9; Rev. 12:7) And it appears that the exalted Jesus is referred to as an angel in Revelation 20:1 for, as God’s king, he is the logical one to bind Satan and the demons.So evidently, the term “angel” as designating an office may be used in a general sense to refer to all heavenly spirit creatures.

Pterist

A watcher *** "Are they not all spirits for public service, sent forth to minister for those who are going to inherit salvation?" (Hebrews 1:14) . ****

The above scripture is about Angels NOT some ruling class of Christians, you are mis-quoting the Bible.

A watcher *** The anointed will become angels, and continue to help the other sheep, from heaven.

The whole goal of Christianity is to reach maturity NOT to be dependent forever on a church or organisation . Ephesians 4: 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. That little word UNTIL speaks volumns.

Shalom

wha happened?

The One doesn't consist of 8 egomaniacs in NY.

If the GB didn't make the annointed irrelevent. How are they relevent today, now that they are part of the domestics that have ZERO say in doctrine?

wasblind

Inspections between 1914-1919

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Sayswho

If God is unchangeable and would not lie then either the angels were:

1. very careless and unreliable in bringing their messages to the governing
body and the writers of The Watchtower, (Can we believe God would pick such
messengers and allow this to happen?)
2. they were actually evil deceiving angels passing on erroneous messages to
confuse people. (Again could you believe that God would not be able to
recognize this and check them out before passing on Godly information to his
anointed followers on earth?)
3. it was a totally man made theory to try and give credibility to their
peculiar doctrines presented by the President and the leadership of the
Society.
4. or, a satanically inspired scheme to mislead the leadership and their
followers.

I think we would have to choose between these last two options.
There are no other sources.
(taken from "The Last Popes Of WT)

SW

Ding

Thanks, Blondie.

Lots of "evidently" and supposition in those WTs, all tied into WT teaching that Jesus = Michael.

Sayswho

"There cannot be a question or doubt that Jesus
Christ can and does direct every division of his
organization and that he can and does use his holy
angels to carry into operation his orders and direct
the course of the remnant on earth, regardless of
the fact that the remnant cannot see these agents
or ambassadors of the Lord and can have no direct
or audible communication with them." (The
Watchtower. September 1. 1932. p. 263).

SW

a watcher

Ding:

Those who are born again will become part of a government in heaven, to bring everlasting benefits to millions of people, subjects of God's government who will be living on earth.

Rulership for Some, Benefits for Many. w09 4/1 pp11-12.

Exciting new adjustments in understanding in the July 15th WT!

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