How Women are treated in the WTS

by Nowhere 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • teenyuck
    teenyuck

    When two JW women came to my door a few months ago, I brought up the treatment of women. They quoted this garbage.

    I was shaking mad, speaking to them. They looked at me like I was crazed..."there can only be one head and it should be a man; Paul said so."

    I told them it was a crock.

    My mother still spouts this when I bring it up. And she is a closet feminist.

    That is why I despise the WTBTS. The brainwashing of "you are just not as smart/good enough/etc.

    Thanks hawkaw. I am e-mailing this to myself, so I can send it to my mother.

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    A jw woman said to me that women are "less" than men. AAARRRGGHHH!!
    She said thats where society has gone wrong - that women shouldn't have careers or lives, they should be at home for husband and children. In the local hall, I was one of only 2 'sisters' who worked full-time. She still attends, working full time while her hub works part-time.

    What a pile of crap.

    ** http://www.religioustolerance.org **

  • SYN
    SYN

    I'd love to show this to some hardcore feminists I know. They'd probably organize a Jihad straight away!

    [>:(] [>:(] [>:(]

    It really is such an amazingly beautiful series of interlocking systems that comprise what a human is. It's too bad we're working backwards from the object code, everything would be simpler with the source and a comment or three thrown in.

  • Surrey Girl
    Surrey Girl

    I would like to see this article too - if you or anyone has a copy pls let me know. Thank you.

  • Preston
    Preston

    And this was 1967 when it was written?!? Wow, living proof that the gesta..oops...governing body is a group of white heterosexist male racists. No wonder JW women get treated like crap. To be fair though, you half to also consign blame to their sources, namely, but not limited to The Bible (big surprise there), Gray's Anatomy (I was kinda taken a back with this one), The Science News, and one of New York City's leading psychiatrists (and you thought the society hated those people) Dr. Marie Robinson, clearly a person with no backbone...and a smaller brain no doubt...

  • frogit
    frogit

    Is this scan from this Awake? this is not on the CD Rom.

    brain size: g67 8/22 27

    Frogit

  • Surrey Girl
    Surrey Girl

    Thank you hawkeye for scanning in article. Very demeaning towards women as regards the brain size (obviously the views of an ignorant person). I am a member of MENSA with an IQ of 132 - according to the article however my brain is smaller and I am thus less intelligent. However the bible scriptures quoted do back up the article's main subject which is that women are in subjection to men. These days however things have changed because men cannot seem to be able to provide for women* and some have no qualms about leaving their wife and children to fend for themselves. Indeed these days women often work full time, pay the mortgage, run the house, do all the DIY and pay all the bills - all the men have to do is go to work!

    *No offence intended to the superior sex!

  • SYN
    SYN

    It would not be surprising in the least if the Tower removed this spectacularly chauvinistic article from their CDROMs.

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    It might be helpful if you were to look at it this way:

    This is the kind of women Watchtower wants to ATTRACT--

    This is the kind of women Watchtower wants to KEEP--

    So these are the kinds of things Watchtower writes.

    It gets worse the more you think about it. This comes up a lot at our exjw/jw get togethers. The fact that educated and worldy expereinced men such as Dr. Rodney Stark and Dr. Firpo Carr can go to JW meetings and watch women not be ALLOWED to do a Bible Reading, not be ALLOWED to do the Watchtower reading, not be ALLOWED to handle microphones..

    AND IT DOESN'T FEEL WRONG TO THEM.

    From the time a female child makes her first trip to the KH in her diaper and blanket, she is beaten over the head as 'inferior' and 'weaker' and she knows she will NEVER attain the status she deserves. A woman of twenty years of faithful service, with four years of college, a teaching degree and a decade of teaching in a University (for example) has to sit quietly in the seat while 12 and 13 and 14 year old boys do the bible reading and microphone handling and reading for the Watchtower and the bookstudy----and she has to wear a headcovering around them as well. This is what a female child is exposed to from birth.

    And persons on this board wonder why women cannot empower themselves enough to leave Watchtower. After a lifetime of abuse like this, little wonder they have trouble getting up whatever it takes for them to get up and leave. It also explains so much dysfunction among JW kids...women are so busy trying to keep THEMSELVES safe for this constant emotional and psychological ONSLAUGHT --read/be abused by the Watchtower/Bible DAILY--there's nothing left over to raise the children healthfully. The laws of our physical world say that you simply cannot pass along what you do not have.

  • blondie
    blondie

    And how about this frightening article. I learned about it right here on this DB.

    *** w61 12/15 767-8 Questions from Readers ***


    How can girls guard against temptation in this sex-crazy world?

    When a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind. Young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos. If they have not been instructed by their parents in regard to the matter of sex, a boy and a girl are likely to become too familiar and to engage in what is popularly called petting or necking. They may practice this for a time and see no bad results. However, the time will come when there will be great danger in such actions. Why? In answer to this question, we can learn about nature and sex from the bovine family of mammals, both wild and tame.

    Large herds of cattle, both male and female, wander over the plains feeding. Ordinarily the male or bull would not think of approaching the female or cow for sex purposes. If he did approach he would not receive a hearty welcome, but, rather, he might be gored by the cows horns. There is no petting or sex relations between bull and cow permitted, because the female is not in physical condition to breed. The bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place. However, when the female of the species is in condition to breed, she makes the matter known. If there is no male in the herd, she will go elsewhere looking for one and she is unsettled until she finds one and then is bred by him. Now she is contented, and the end result is a calf. In this connection it is interesting to note that the male animal has no season at which he is not willing to engage in the breeding act.

    If we humans would take a lesson from these creatures, we would learn something of importance in matters of sex, as to its purpose and the results of its operation.

    As with a cow, when a young girl who has reached her puberty is in physical condition to conceive and become pregnant, her sex emotions are greatly aroused. If she has association with a boy, she is inclined to think that it is the sweetness of the "boy friend" that causes this delightful and new feeling, and so she becomes infatuated with him. If the boy friend should become sexually aroused and lets her know it and then she yields her body to the advances of the amorous boy friend, she is likely to become pregnant as a result of just one sex experience of this kind.

    Some persons foolishly think that they know when it is "safe" to have sex contact with those of the opposite sex and thus avoid becoming pregnant, but this is a serious mistake on their part. Even learned biologists do not know exactly when there is no danger of conception for a woman. This is due to certain irregularities in the case of various females.

    When the ovum, that is, the egg cell from which the baby starts, is at large or is on its way from the womans ovary through her Fallopian tube to the uterus, there it remains for an uncertain length of time, which varies greatly with different females. Then is the time when conception can take place if the ovum is met by a male life sperm. During that same time the female is sexually aroused and is ready for the sex act that at this time will cause a baby to result. This bearing of children is the sole privilege of the female. In fact, this is one main reason for creating the female of the human species.

    There are cases where a girl became pregnant as a result of one sex interview with a boy. What a price for a girl, a virgin, to pay for a few minutes of satisfied sex emotions! When persons start in this dangerous and sinful course, they find it hard to overcome future temptations. When a young, unmarried girl falls to the temptation, the price she pays is terrible: shame, sorrow, a ruined reputation, endless troubles, with the danger of being disfellowshiped from a congregation if the girl is a dedicated member. It is high time for girls to understand the make-up of their bodies and its functions, especially with regard to sex. Then if a girl understandingly takes care of herself while the ovum is at large and is causing sex disturbance and cravings within her, she will be able to act like a true lady of irreproachable morals at all times. She will avoid the violating of her virginity and the shame and conscience-stricken state due to this; and wisely she will direct her young life so as to end up in the position of a clean, happy wife and mother of legitimate children, journeying to the new world of righteousness, where there will be no sex problems amid a sex-crazy population.

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