What bothers me is the complete mis-application of the passage. Ezekiel was speaking to other exiles in Babylon, telling them that their hope to go home, to their temple and relative left behind, the desire of their eyes, was a false hope. All that was going to be destroyed. They would be so miserable and stunned they would be unable to say or do anything normally. How does that apply to those in the Kingdom not mourning family that didn't make it? It has nothing to do with it at all.
CO's comments about loved ones vs. JW.ORG
by DATA-DOG 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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fresh prince of ohio
Do You Feel That You Are the Only People Who Will Be Saved?
No. Many millions who lived in centuries past and who weren't Jehovah's Witnesses will have an opportunity for salvation. The Bible explains that in God's promised new world, ""there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous."" (Acts 24:15) Additionally, many now living may yet begin to serve God, and they too will gain salvation.Bah. Typical wince-inducing WTS Doublespeak. If a person asks this question, they aren't talking about the dead, they're talking about the living. So the first part of the "answer" doesn't address the question at all.
The second part of the answer could be accurately rephrased as (if you understand what they mean exactly by "serve God") 'persons alive now who are JWs or who join JWs between now and Armageddon will be saved'. So yes, they DO feel that they are the only people who will be saved. And the "No" at the beginning of their "answer" is a bald-faced lie.
WTS, you make me ill.
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whathappened
Yes, Jehovah only wants to save those who have preached false scriptural interpretations from door to door, mindlessly, to the very end. He especially loves those who shun those who no longer or never believed the lies.
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wha happened?
I have never seen a group of people so happy with themselves that others will suffer. No regard for fellow man whatsoever
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clearpoison
This is very logical thought. The teaching has been that no bad things will be remembered in the new order. I think missing people that did not made it through would make you sad and therefore be bad. I have no idea how they reason this, is it so that you really would not even remember the bunch of people that had significance for you in your "past" life, or will you remember them but have no feelings about them?
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Aussie Oz
another doublespeak episode
the CO gets to spout the real truth while to Organization publishes the 'official' truth
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carla
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tiki
amazing....and sad that it takes so little logic to destroy his take on it all. he must be a very sour miserable angry man. the good thing is that they are "waiting on Jehovah" to do all the killing. it'd be hideous if they took that on themselves.
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DATA-DOG
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Bah. Typical wince-inducing WTS Doublespeak. If a person asks this question, they aren't talking about the dead, they're talking about the living. So the first part of the "answer" doesn't address the question at all.
The second part of the answer could be accurately rephrased as (if you understand what they mean exactly by "serve God") 'persons alive now who are JWs or who join JWs between now and Armageddon will be saved'. So yes, they DO feel that they are the only people who will be saved. And the "No" at the beginning of their "answer" is a bald-faced lie.
WTS, you make me ill. "
I think many JW's don't agree with the what the CO said. If you could get them on a witness stand, I think many would say that they do not believe that GOD would destroy billions of people if the big A came tomorrow. So many are already " apostates " according to the Magnificent 8.
The CO gets his info from the top, right? He doesn't just make this up. Isn't every other CO in every other circuit teaching the same thing? The GB must truly believe what the CO is saying behind closed doors. How can it be any other way? Are there rouge CO's?
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Recently I heard a long-time JW (baptized maybe 50 years) express that she does not believe only JWs will survive Armageddon.
The WT's escalating stance of hatred and provincialism is turning off JWs who can no longer tolerate that kind of view of life or their fellow human beings.
I believe a future split in the Org. will not necessarily be over doctrinal issues. It is my opinion that the dividing line will be between those who love their fellow man- and those who identify more closely with the WT's hate-filled rhetoric.