Does Almighty God think about......... ?

by Phizzy 15 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Almighty God must have had a lot of time for thinking, so He must have sat there, at least once and thought along the lines of:

    "I wonder if I am actually Almighty God, or is there something or someone greater than me ?"

    "Where did I come from?"

    "How can I know I have always existed?"

    "What evidence is there for someone greater than me?"

    Having gone down this route, and answered the last one with a negative, do you not think He will have a great appreciation for, and sympathy with the conclusions of, the Atheists of this World ?

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice
    do you not think He will have a great appreciation for, and sympathy with the conclusions of, the Atheists of this World ?

    Nah. God is a psychopath. Totally self agrandising. Always got to be centre stage. Adored and worshipped.

    All that time alone sent him stir crazy.

    Now he wants to be praised and adored or he'll kill everyone.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    I think he spends his time worring about Dr. Who finding him ...

  • MrFreeze
    MrFreeze

    LOL @ punkofnice! Being a weird loner like that and suddenly have a bunch of people thrust into your life like that can cause you to have a terrible reaction! Such as murdering a bunch of kids because their parents didn't accept the Watchtower magazine where the JW featured an article on what sex acts don't get Jehoover off.

  • notjustyet
    notjustyet

    Stumbled on this youtube users video about this subject. Probably shared on here in the past,deserves another.

    Got to watch it all the way till the end for the grand finale. Sensitive users please note, use of "Potty Mouth" language within but don't let that prevent you from getting the point of the video. It would be like not getting the point of Schindlers List due to some brief frontal nudity.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODetOE6cbbc

  • Terry
    Terry

    Effective video

  • Seraphim23
    Seraphim23

    What an interesting question. I have thought quite a bit about the nature of God over the years. It is obvious that no serious thinker thinks that God is a bearded man in the literal sky, although that is how atheists and some fundamentalists often characterise the concept of God.

    Its gets even deeper than that for me when the issue of Gods mind and thoughts are brought up. How does God think and what does he think about? Are questions predicated on God somehow being like physical human beings! There are legitimate questions before those questions however, because thinking is something one does by virtue of not knowing all things. Thinking is a kind of navigation though a world of possibilities that themselves are only possibilities because of being constrained by limitations. One has to think when one doesn’t know the answer. In terms of being human and having a physical brain, even when we know the answer the brain still has to do activity to get the memory of the correct answer out of storage as it were. Although in this no trying to work out the answer type of brain activity has to be done.

    If God is the one through all things ultimately come, which is a good philosophical definition for God, then by definition he knows all the answers, so doesn’t have to think in order the get the answers. If God is all powerful and infinite then in some sense he is not going to be subject to time or limitation, so any fact he knows or thinks will not have a greater priority in his so called brain than any other, but if one did as with thinking, then that would not be being all powerful and infinite because he would be subject to change. Change is not compatible with infinity because however much it changes it is always the same. Nothing can be added or taken away or change. So the concept of God thinking is problematic if he is all powerful and infinite.

    However God could be all powerful and the one through whom all things come in the sense of not being all powerful to the infinite degree, but all powerful in the sense of being the most powerful it is possible to be, or more so than anyone else. An analogy might be the boss and creator of a company. He is all powerful over the company he created, and by definition the top of the tree in terms of authority. However he still can’t levitate the office. Perhaps a better analogy would be an example like the film `the matrix`. Some being of non-defined origin creates a simulation, and populates it with beings capable of thought and freedom in a universe/world that obeys mathematical laws. That being is functionally God by virtue of being as powerful as it is possible to be, and creating all things from the point of view of those in the simulation. The only constraint would be the mathematical laws the simulation is based. However it would still mean he could do things that the beings created via the simulation that are in the simulation cannot do. If this is the case with our God then he might be able to think in a way humans can relate to.

    In both versions of God the question of God actually thinking about the possibility of another greater being than himself would not be relevant. With the infinite God that could not be the case because two infinities is impossible. If there are two, then they limit each other by virtue of not being part of one another. If they are part of one another, then they are one infinity again and thus one God.

    In the case of the all-powerful, but never the less limited by mathematics God, who created the simulated world, he would not wonder about a greater being than himself because any such being would only exist in his world, not the simulated world. In terms of the simulated world it would be an irrelevance.

    Of course another view is that somehow the infinite and finite are united in a way impossible to understand because of the inherent contraction it creates in minds that think. If this is somehow the case, atheists are doing what they are supposed to be doing and theists are doing what they are supposed to be doing, and all things will be fine as all are part of one another. What people think may be a complete irrelevance ultimately, but relevant in a shorter term view, a finite term.

  • 2+2=5
    2+2=5

    So YHWH was danced into existence. And 2 trillion years ago, YHWH's creator sent his Son, who made a square circle to give evidence of the only true inspired ebook, so that YHWH would have no excuse.

  • prologos
    prologos

    if one has cherry-picked scriptures and assumes thus defined, that "GOD" is infinite in time

    from the eternal past into the eternal future, then

    all his/her ideas, thoughts must pervade exist in that span instantly all the time. so

    our one thought, problem solving process at a time would not apply.

    looking at evolved creation, all possibilities are possible.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    So, Almighty God has all the answers.

    How does He know the answers are right ?

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