Interesting Conversation that we ARE NOT Bible Students

RubaDub

No need for all the details, but we were with a few from the KH after the meeting for some food and the topic of how smart we are compared to other religions in the world when it comes to knowing the Bible.

My radar immediately went off as that is one of my pet peeves. I (very nicely) asked how many hours a week do we spend between meetings and family study night ? (most laughed since I doubt any do the family study night, but that's beside the point). We agreed on 4.5 hours per week. I asked one of the brothers to multiply that by 50 weeks (answer is 225 hours). I said take into consideration CO visits, Circuit Assemblies, District Assembly, Memorial, etc. Add just 15 hours for those and we get a total of 240 hours per year.

A typical college course is around 40 hours. So 240 divided by 40 equals 6. Basically, we are in meetings for the equivalent of 6 college courses per year, each year, every year. To graduate with a four-year degree from a typical college you need a total of about 40. Divide 40 by the 6 courses per year and you would graduate from college in 6 1/2 years with a degree.

Then I said when you complete the time for the degree, you basically start all over again ... and again ... and again ...

I admitted that we can find a verse in the Bible as fast as anyone and can quote a lot of scriptures off the top of our heads.

I kept the tone very soft but I just mentioned that other than the core beliefs from the GB, how many in the KH can prove one of our fundamental beliefs, such as 1914, directly from the Bible ? Everyone just smiled.

I said for all we study, we know so little about our past; we know much more about the Catholic Church and statements that they have made than our own history. I said it would surprise if more than a few in the KH could write a paragraph or two on the life of CT Russell and Judge Rutherford and their teachings.

Of course, it was mentioned that the GB today knows what spiritual food we need. I totally agreed with him since the end is close ... blah blah blah.

I just concluded that I know I personally need to study more since that is so much I don't know compared to what I do know.

We changed the subject and moved on (it was fun though).

Rub a Dub

Splash

RubaDub:I just mentioned that other than the core beliefs from the GB, how many in the KH can prove one of our fundamental beliefs, such as 1914, directly from the Bible ? Everyone just smiled.

And then all THEIR radars immediately went off.

Splash.

RubaDub

And then all THEIR radars immediately went off.

Splash ...

Yes, yes. But I turned it around to myself several times saying how much I have studied and how little I really know.

I may hear about it later. A possibility now that I look back on it.

Rub a Dub

whathappened

See, Jehovah's Witnesses can't have an honest discussion about their religion. It's not allowed.

Nathan Natas

Rub-a-Dub observed,

" A typical college course is around 40 hours. So 240 divided by 40 equals 6. Basically, we are in meetings for the equivalent of 6 college courses per year, each year, every year. To graduate with a four-year degree from a typical college you need a total of about 40. Divide 40 by the 6 courses per year and you would graduate from college in 6 1/2 years with a degree."

Except that they are essentially the SAME classes every year at the KH! Colleges have a PROGRESSIVE study plan that the WTB&TS does not. And who needs Song of Solomon 204 anyway?

Moses Unedited

I kept the tone very soft but I just mentioned that other than the core beliefs from the GB, how many in the KH can prove one of our fundamental beliefs, such as 1914, directly from the Bible? Everyone just smiled.

LOL. I remember how typical this was; particularly when having to cover this kind of material in the home book studies. I remember having to conduct a book study when we were covering the Revelation Climax book, and it was like pulling teeth to get anyone to comment. We were covering some very important doctrines that were exclusive to JWs and very few people in the group could provide an answer that was not an almost ver batim reading of the material that we had just read. I myself scratched my head at many of the labyrinthine arguments put forth in the book. The closing prayer couldn’t have come sooner.

Yet, whenever a study article would cover the machinations of the Christendom (especially the Catholic Church), you couldn’t shut people up. Hands would fly up like it was an art auction. JWs can provide very articulate answers on what the Catholics have gotten wrong. But, here is an interesting experiment: ask a JW at your door to show you FROM THE BIBLE, where it teaches that salvation comes through an earthly channel, or to justify having to be baptized in association with an organization. “I will have to get back to you on that one” is the likely response, so that they can go consult their Talmud (the Watchtower CD-rom).

problemaddict

Moses has a point and in it I think is the last and only appeal of JW's to the world.

They aren't the status quo (or so people think). It is kind of easy to point to paganism and say that is why we don't do holidays. it is kind of easy to look at the Catholic support of hitler and say we are different and don't go to war.

Of course it is much more complicated than that, but the reality has never stopped the fantast before. on top of that, JW's are chosen because Jehovah picked you. Screw the other people on your block, he liked you in particular and that is why he brought you here.

zeb

Ah yes the "family study night".

I remember very clearly that when the 'book study' was stopped the elders had no idea why and said so from the platform. This space lasted a couple of weeks until this new "family study night" came into being.

AndDontCallMeShirley

how many in the KH can prove one of our fundamental beliefs, such as 1914, directly from the Bible ? Everyone just smiled.

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And everyone in the group is thinking, "wow! this guy is like a Bible Nazi or something!"

Of course, if they'd had their "Reasoning" books handy, they could've looked up why we can prove 1914 just from the Bible.

DesirousOfChange

I may hear about it later.

That you may. . . . from the Chairman of the Judicial Committee.

You sound like a freaking Apostate to me!

Doc

Interesting Conversation that we ARE NOT Bible Students

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