JEHOVAH and the TROJAN horse

by Terry 15 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Terry
    Terry

    Both men and women and whole nations are destroyed by a single wrong. The word "YES!"

    The cleverness of the wrong is hidden in the camouflage of INVERTED MORALITY.

    Willing participation is the entrance.

    The evil of evil is the BLINDNESS of it by those committing it! And commit it they do IN THE NAME OF MORALITY.

    Just think of it--who in their rational mind accepts SLAVERY willingly? And yet, Jehovah's Witnesses are gleeful slaves of Jehovah.

    Significantly, this makes them slaves of the Watchtower leadership or GB whose demands for loyalty are absolute.

    All over this world it is the good, the able, the men of reason, who act as their own destroyers by victimizing themselves

    in vowing to SERVE Jehovah. Jehovah, as it turns out, is a Trojan horse built by men who invade the minds of 7 million kind, gentle and decent

    human beings on planet earth.

    This GB hiding inside the hollow construct of JEHOVAH create the lure by presenting the MORALITY of a New World Society.

    The 7 million victims throw open the gates of their conscious reason and pull the Trojan horse inside.

    And while reason sleeps....the GB bringeth forth MONSTERS! The "good" people who do evil deeds.

    Camouflaged by sweet words of "love" and "peace" the 7 million are duped by their own thirst for virtue and let evil transmit to them the poison of destruction, thus gaining for evil the power of survival, and for their own values—the impotence of death.

    There comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win—and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. Any of us or the 7 million Jehovah's victims worldwide put an end to inverted moral outrages by pronouncing a single word in their mind.

    I pronounced it. The word was “No.”

  • GRexBolt
    GRexBolt

    That's ridiculous! I'm a Jehovah's Witness, not a slave. The WatchTower association is not our "leader" I don't even know where that came from. No one is in charge of us. We view Jehovah as our God who, through his holy spirit, gives information to the GOVERNING BODY, who then has that information sent to the watchtower association and they send it to the congregations throught the world by way of the elders. No slaves, no leaders, just a well organized religious orginization.

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    Hello G Rexbolt......In my 45 years of "service" we were proud be to willing slaves . An oft repeated phrase was "slaves of God" and of cours led by The F & D Slave.. In practise, I now see we were indeed slaves of The Society. What they said, we did. They said to change our belief on the count of time, or the acceptabilty of transplants or transfused blood fractions and we changed our belief. There was no other verification needed - The Society said so .

    One reads in Orwel's "1984" that his State used the maxim that "Freedom is Slavery" and they were all slaves while thinking that they were free .

    Good wishes to you.

  • Terry
    Terry

    GR ex BOLT says: That's ridiculous! I'm a Jehovah's Witness, not a slave. The WatchTower association is not our "leader" I don't even know where that came from. No one is in charge of us. We view Jehovah as our God who, through his holy spirit, gives information to the GOVERNING BODY, who then has that information sent to the watchtower association and they send it to the congregations throught the world by way of the elders. No slaves, no leaders, just a well organized religious orginization.

    Let's take this one baby step at a time and see if what you are asserting has basis and merit.

    1. I'm a Jehovah's Witness, not a slave.

    A.The idea of being a slave in relation to a Master is rife in the NT.

    Romans 1:1 "From Paul, a bond SLAVE of JESUS CHRIST (the Messiah)..." 2 Peter 1:1"...a SLAVE and apostle of JESUS CHRIST...". James 1:1 "...a SLAVE of God and of the Lord JESUS CHRIST...".

    B. I notice you don't say you are a Christ Witness. Ask yourself "Why?" you didn't. That is the Trojan horse aspect creeping in.

    2. The WatchTower association is not our "leader" I don't even know where that came from.

    A. Current teaching is that Jesus is NOT your mediator (unless you are anointed.) That makes the organization all you have!

    "Likewise, the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members." Worldwide Security Under the "Prince of Peace" pp.10-11

    B. If you have no "leaders" then how can the GB demand you shun beloved family members and penalize you with disfellowship?

    "Really, what your beloved family member needs to see is your resolute stance to put Jehovah above everything else - including the family bond. … Do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail." Watchtower 2013 Jan 15 p.16

    3.No one is in charge of us. We view Jehovah as our God who, through his holy spirit, gives information to the GOVERNING BODY, who then has that information sent to the watchtower association and they send it to the congregations throught the world by way of the elders.

    A. The Baptism of new JW's reveals how this Organization has inserted itself into the DEDICATION VOW

    Watchtower - 1985 Jun 1 p.30

    "The first question is:
    On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?

    The second is:
    Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization? Having answered yes to these questions, candidates are in a right heart condition to undergo Christian baptism."

    B. Testimony by Fred Franz in 1954 under oath in the so called Walsh Trial rebuts your opinion:

    Q. If a member of Jehovah's Witnesses took the view himself that that prophesy was wrong and said so he would be disfellowshipped?

    A. Yes, if he said so and kept persisting in creating trouble, because if the whole organisation believes one thing, even though it be erronious and somebody else starts on his own trying to put his ideas across then there is disunity and trouble, there cannot be harmony, there cannot be marching. When a change comes it should come from the proper source, the head of the organisation, the governing body, not from the bottom upwards, because everybody would have ideas, and the organisation would disintegrate and go in a thousand different directions. Our purpose is to have unity.

    Q. Unity at all costs?

    A. Unity at all costs, because we believe and are sure that Jehovah God is using our organisation, the governing body of our organisation to direct it, even though mistakes are made from time to time.

    Q. And unity based upon an enforced acceptance of false prophecy?

    A. That is conceded to be true.

    Q. And the person who expressed his view, as you say, that it was wrong, and was disfellowshipped, would be in breach of the Covenant, if he was baptized?

    A. That is correct.

    Q. And as you said yesterday expressly, would be worthy of death?

    A. I think - - -

    Q. Would you say yes or no?

    A. I will answer yes, unhesitatingly.

    Q. Do you call that religion?

    A. It certainly is.

    Q. Do you call it Christianity?

    A. I certainly do.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    That's ridiculous! I'm a Jehovah's Witness, not a slave.

    Did you never sing the song: "oh come all you slaves of Jehovah most high, who've given your hearts to your God"?

  • Terry
    Terry

    The sum total of ALL the teachings of the sociopaths in the GB coalesce into a gestalt.....eventually and that totality

    results in a TAKEOVER of the mind.......but only when "triggered" by key phrases or situations.

    You can have a "normal" conversation with any JW until you trigger the collapse of the wave form into MIND CONTROLLED script.

    The indoctrination kicks in and subverts the higher-rational features of normal thinking.

    A sudden seizure of LOYALTY almost fierce as a mother's love and protection instincts for a threatened baby kick in!

    The defense mechanism spills out a teleprompter of arguments, counter-arguments and apologia.

    All during this no ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL CREATIVE THINKING is being processed at all.

    That brain-fever goes away when the perceived "threat" vanishes.

    Then, the JW gets their everyday brain back!

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    I thought Hayden Covington was the one that made the "unity at all costs" testimonial and its follow-up statements.

  • jookbeard
    jookbeard

    GRexBOLT when the WTS joined with the UN for well over a decade yet condemning the so called churches of christendom who had also joined as being Apostate and originating from the Devil, was the Holy Spirit active in imparting this invisible force to your GB in joining? and as the preceding years have passed in which not only did the GB lie and deny its membership could it be remotely possible that Jeehovah would have removed this appointment as his slave because of this blatant act ? or can the WTS/GB do whatever it likes and not be accountable to anyone?

  • Kojack57
    Kojack57

    Well I think Grexbolt is what you say JEHOVAH WITNESS STUPID.

  • Terry
    Terry

    It is hard to imagine an active JW appearing on our discussion board unless it was accidental.

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