Millions now living will never die

by MrFreeze 22 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • AuntBee
    AuntBee

    That's a really good point, Jookbeard! I just realized that recently, having thought of it as more similar to the 1914 thing, thinking, ok , how long would that be past 1925, if millions would still be alive, etc.

    ALl that 1925/BethSarim predictions/speculation is the backdrop to Rutherford's "light flashing up" to reveal the great crowd in the 30's! Essentially, a whole new religious system apart from the New Covenant. As the old saying goes "Consider the source." Was that guy a reliable and trustworthy interpreter of Scripture? ? Or...if it was light "from Jehovah", special revelation, what was his track record with that? Wow, what was that guy smoking (drinking?)???

    It's just as though Hal Lindsey or Harold Camping would come up with a MAJOR new interpretation never before heard of, after their failed predictions/speculations, and say this is light from Jehovah, and you have to listen to it!

  • notjustyet
    notjustyet

    On another note, to make sure that I understand this, and I'm asking here if this is how it went down.

    1. ORIGINALLY Rutherford said "Millions now living MAY never die"

    2. THEN he said, "Millions now living WILL never die"

    3. THEN the WTBTS quoted him as saying "Millions now living MAY never die"

    Whereas they were making a TRUE quote, but were not quoting the latest modification, is this the way it went down?

    If not, where can I go to see a connect the dot diagram of what is the issue here?

    NJY

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    http://cultprevention.blogspot.com/2012/03/millions-now-living-will-never-die.html And they kept harping on that message for a really long time! I remember hearing it in the 1980s.

    World Population by Age and Sex

    AgeBoth Sexes PopulationMale PopulationFemale PopulationSex Ratio
    Total7,078,602,3703,563,626,0153,514,976,355101.4
    0-4629,332,297324,950,626304,381,671106.8
    5-9606,464,507313,805,481292,659,026107.2
    10-14594,517,728307,820,965286,696,763107.4
    15-19594,751,774306,973,328287,778,446106.7
    20-24599,004,416307,262,765291,741,651105.3
    25-29573,347,205292,073,928281,273,277103.8
    30-34529,329,739269,214,842260,114,897103.5
    35-39490,543,030248,895,977241,647,053103.0
    40-44482,422,450244,064,972238,357,478102.4
    45-49438,894,960220,120,924218,774,036100.6
    50-54366,941,238181,785,048185,156,19098.2
    55-59329,068,440161,471,072167,597,36896.3
    60-64267,091,860129,300,691137,791,16993.8
    65-69196,398,25893,639,769102,758,48991.1
    70-74151,564,74169,600,37981,964,36284.9
    75-79110,741,65448,402,21462,339,44077.6
    80-8469,040,49927,920,82541,119,67467.9
    85-8934,248,96812,116,42422,132,54454.7
    90-9411,847,4423,493,6348,353,80841.8
    95-992,590,032623,0621,966,97031.7
    100+461,13289,089372,04323.9
  • TotallyADD
    TotallyADD

    Rutherford said "Millions now living will never die" the Wt. in 2010 change it to "Millions now living may never die" Totally ADD

  • notjustyet
    notjustyet

    So Rutherford NEVER said "millions now living "may" never die" ?

    I thought I had seen on a video on youtube that this was the case and that he had changed it after a bit to "WILL" but I may have completely missed that point.

    Thanks,..

    NJY

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    The original title of Rutherford's talk was "Millions Now Living May Never Die". Only later was it changed to "Millions Now Living Will Never Die".

    Rutherford, being an opportunistic business man, saw the huge success of the campaign based on the word "May", so he changed it to say "Will". This resulted in even greater success. When WT quotes the earlier, unrevised title "Millions Now Living May Never Die", it is nothing more than dishonesty and an attempt to whitewash the facts. The WT presented it as a definite, unquestionable expectation beyond dispute. "May" happen wasn't even a consideration.

    As jookbeard correctly pointed out, this campaign was directly tied to the false WT prophecy of Armageddon coming in 1925. So, it has no application to any time period beyond 1925. It failed and has been swept under the rug.

    The WT's doctrine of "generation", however, has everything to do with dates after 1925, and is responsible for such debacles as the 1975 failure.

  • MrFreeze
    MrFreeze

    Thanks for those stats rebel8.

    TotallyADD: I was up late watching a movie and decided to hop on to JWN. I'm an old man now! I am usually in bed by 11.

  • prologos
    prologos

    the talk's title was:

    THE WORLD HAS ENDED< millions now living will never die--.

    Wrong from the start

    not the finish.

    not just yet: never die=uninterupted life, not ultimate destiny, (if any)

  • NeverKnew
  • prologos
    prologos

    In the Proclaimers book page 426 is reproduced advertising from

    Boston Post newspaper :

    THE WORLD HAS ENDED

    Millions Now Living Will Never Die

    Free Lecture by

    HON. J.F. R--

    there it is from the horses mouth.

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