I get so tired of people complaining about everything President Obama says or does

by booker-t 50 Replies latest jw friends

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    ON OBAMA: If you read mainstream papers, he is a success with a few omissions.

    Band, you would have to be referring to only mainstream "liberal" media (NY Times, Wash Post, USA Today). He was a total "no show" as an Illinois Senator. NO record. What are his success as US President?

    IF he gets healthcare off the ground, he deserves a round of applause.

    Other than that, he has fallen short on most of his promises.

    The economy is improving (maybe) inspite of anything he has done.

    Caveat: He has a Republican heavy Senate working hard against him regardless of what harm it might cause the Americnan People.

    I doubt you'll see another serious African American candidate for many years because the Obama factor will rule out any chance of their getting elected. Unless, of course, the Republicans continue to run the same low quality candidates as McCain/Palin and Romney. I really think the GOP does NOT want the problems associated with the White House.

    Doc

  • talesin
    talesin

    Booker-T

    Anyone who calls you racist for saying 'finally a black POTUS' is not getting it. It's an historical landmark. I was astounded that it would happen in my lifetime. I'm not a fan of politicians, and don't think they have much real power (as has already been expressed, the corporations and elite control everything, and imho the POTUS is not much more than a figurehead/tool), BUT,

    150 years ago, Obama would have been a slave - wow! He is your POTUS! Racism is alive and well, true, but the election of a black POTUS tells this poster that we are winning (those who hate racism). The USofA has come a long way. I understand why it makes you happy. xo

    tal

  • sd-7
    sd-7
    Yes, being happy over the skin color of your president could be interpreted as closset racism. Unless white people are allowed to be "glad" when a white president is elected? Yeah ... sounds very racist doesn't it !

    Hey, if you want to be happy when a white president is elected, be my guest. It's a free country. That's kind of the point. Of course it would be kind of pointless, as like all of the major candidates for president for like the last, I don't know, couple o' centuries?, have been white. You'd be like, happy every election except the last two. Not the end of the world, either way. Also, racial pride becomes a more complex issue when you've been subjected to institutionalized slavery for a really long time. That doesn't justify racism in return, but it does create by its very existence a struggle for identity, be it racial or as an individual, in a world that has for a very long time abused and victimized you on the basis of race. It's kind of human for black folks to feel joy about a black president. (If he sucks, in the estimation of history, not so much, however...it'd be meaningless if he does the job poorly.)

    The reason why some people have been happy to see a black president is because there have been no serious candidates who were black for, well, the majority of U.S. history. It's not, in my opinion, happiness to the exclusion of all who aren't black (since plenty of non-blacks were just as happy to see it happen and were the ones who voted for him), rather it's happiness to see someone who, not that long ago in this country would've had to present his freedom papers if he'd been seen walking alone in certain areas, is actually President of the United States. If anything, that to me is the triumph of Americans as a whole over a long history of racism against blacks. It said to me that people were willing to overlook the color of his skin (which not very long ago would've guaranteed he didn't get on a TV set unless he was dancing and singing with wide eyes) and assess--albeit with varying degrees of accuracy--whether or not he was a viable candidate for the Presidency. I'm just as hopeful that a female President, regardless of race, will happen one day, and I think it should've happened a long time ago, frankly.

    This is an era where you can do anything you put your mind to and it's a heck of a lot easier than when it was illegal for a certain race of people who were slaves to learn how to read. There are no excuses to be made for people who simply don't try to better themselves when the opportunities are there for them and race is no longer a major boundary for success in life that requires a massive struggle to get around. So obviously, there is considerably less of a race problem because of the progress that has been made in the laws and in people's hearts, thankfully. But it is still there. I felt it myself in a small Missouri diner a few years ago, where my order wasn't taken for an hour while whites came in, ordered, got their food and started eating. There were no other blacks in the diner and it was a very small diner with 99.9% white patrons, so it had to be because I was black, not because I'd somehow been overlooked. Racism is still real, but thankfully it's a lot easier for everyone of any race to beat it because the ignorance that spawns such prejudices can be easier dispelled by means of education.

    Now with that said, nothing justifies racism by blacks or against blacks or against anyone. People of all races come together in this country because of their belief in a common goal--that of freedom and equal rights for all. I've never believed in some sort of 'us against them' mentality. Sometimes there's a little comedy in looking at the differences between different cultures, but to suggest that one is better than the other is obviously wrong. We're all just different.

    I personally disagree with some of the stuff Obama has done, and I see no problem with people being critical of his policies if they disagree. As long as it's because they disagree with him and not because of his skin color, have at him. I'll join you.

    --sd-7

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    its not like the president really controls the government anyway

    Yes and no...I'm guessing some people haven't noticed the recent powers HE has given himself. YES...he has the power to do that with the flick of a pen. And recently he has. Check it out before claiming he doesn't control anything.

    Ultimately the president is just a puppet for corporations...but he is still in a position to give himself a lot of power and control and authority on their behalf.

    And I don't care what colour he is or isn't...he is no better than Bush. He is just continuing what Bush and Clinton started.

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    Obama is my worldview. We are products of the same culture. I was completely transported to a higher realm by his first nstional speech at kerry's convention

    I felt the same listening to Michelle Obama...they are great speakers.

    So what? They give you an evangelical feeling. Good salespeople can do that to anyone.

    Obama is a war criminal...along with Bush. two sides of the same coin.

    And I do get why people are happy when they see their culture represented in government. I don't think it is racist to want to see some ballance and to feel represented. That is what governments are supposed to do. They are supposed to represent the people. All the people.

  • biometrics
    biometrics

    Praising Obama is like praising the captian of the Titanic, while it was sinking!

  • sd-7
    sd-7
    Praising Obama is like praising the captian of the Titanic, while it was sinking!

    Or like praising Bane for urging us all to take control of our city.

    "Gotham!  Take control!  Take control of your city!"

    --sd-7

  • Glander
    Glander

    Booker -be strong and try not to let it get you down.

    Life can be so unfair sometimes. You must be strong.

  • awaken2004
    awaken2004

    sd-7, well said.

  • Perversion of a truth
    Perversion of a truth
    Praising Obama is like praising the captian of the Titanic, while it was sinking!

    Agreed. To answer the original poster about getting so tired of people complaining about everything president Obama says or does... Then maybe he should do or say something right!? I do agree that he is more or less just a puppet. That said, he increased the national debt double what bush did in his whole eight years in in his first term, he is a liar (aren't they all), He made promises about wire tapping, Guantanamo Bay, etc and hasn't done anything like he said. Now with this whole NSA Prism thing going on and all the other scandals Osama Obama has come under, , what is there to say that is good about the guy...

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