Types and anti types
by Deltawave 38 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Deltawave
According the Watchtower study of May 10th, it has been made clear no prophetic meaning should be given to a a scripture or passage unless the Bible itself gives clear interpretation of it. Therefore Daniel 7 especially gives it's fulfillment to Nebuchadnezzar only. No future Kingdom or 2520year wait til 1914. No gentile times or "this generation". Therefore bible understanding according to the Watchtower society has been blown to HE'LL. And NOBODY in Kingdom Hall saw it! -
Wild_Thing
Can you provide quotes or pics of what exactly was written in the WT? I have been out for a while. Thanks! -
Divergent
From the WT Study Edition, March 2015, pages 9 - 11
Link: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20150315/clear-simple-teaching-bible-truth/
A SIMPLER, CLEARER APPROACH TO BIBLE NARRATIVES
7 If you have been serving Jehovah for decades, you may have noticed a gradual shift in the way our literature explains many of the narratives recorded in the Bible. How so? In times past, it was more common for our literature to take what might be called a type-antitype approach to Scriptural accounts. The Bible narrative was considered the type, and any prophetic fulfillment of the story was the anti-type. Is there a Scriptural basis for prophetic pictures? Yes. For instance, Jesus spoke of “the sign of Jonah the prophet.” (Read Matthew 12:39, 40.) Jesus explained that Jonah’s sojourn in the belly of the fish—which would have been Jonah’s grave had Jehovah not preserved him alive—was prophetic of Jesus’ own time in the grave.8 The Bible contains other inspired prophetic pictures. The apostle Paul discussed a number of them. For example, Abraham’s relationship with Hagar and Sarah provided a prophetic picture ofJehovah’s relationship with the nation of Israel and the heavenly part of God’s organization. (Gal. 4:22-26) Similarly, the tabernacle and the temple, Atonement Day, the high priest, and other facets of the Mosaic Law contained “a shadow of the good things to come.”(Heb. 9:23-25; 10:1) It is fascinating and faith-strengthening to study such prophetic pictures. Can we conclude, though, that every character, event, and object described in the Bible foreshadows someone or something?
9 In the past, such an approach was often taken. Consider, for example, the account about Naboth, whose unjust trial and execution were arranged by wicked Queen Jezebel so that her husband, Ahab, could seize Naboth’s vineyard. (1 Ki. 21:1-16) Back in 1932, that account was explained as a prophetic drama. Ahab and Jezebel were said to picture Satan and his organization; Naboth pictured Jesus; Naboth’s death, then, was prophetic of Jesus’ execution. Decades later, though, in the book “Let Your Name Be Sanctified,” published in 1961, Naboth was said to picture the anointed, and Jezebel was Christendom. Hence, Naboth’s persecution at Jezebel’s hands pictured the persecution of the anointed during the last days. For many years, God’s people.found this approach to Bible accounts faith strengthening. Why, then, have things changed?
10 As we might expect, over the years Jehovah has helped “the faithful and discreet slave” to become steadily more discreet. Discretion has led to greater caution when it comes to calling a Bible account a prophetic drama unless there is a clear Scriptural basis for doing so. Additionally, it has been found that some of the older explanations about types and antitypes are unduly difficult for many to grasp. The details of such teachings—who pictures whom and why—can be hard to keep straight, to remember, and to apply. Of even greater concern, though, is that the moral and practical lessons of the Bible accounts under examination may be obscured or lost in all the scrutiny of possible antitypical fulfillments. Thus, we find that our literature today focuses more on the simple, practical lessons about faith, endurance, godly devotion, and other vital qualities that we learn about from Bible accounts.
11 How, then, do we now understand the account about Naboth? In much clearer, simpler terms. That righteous man died, not because he was a prophetic type of Jesus or of the anointed, but because he was an integity keeper. He held to Jehovah’s Law in the face of horrific abuse of power. (Num. 36:7; 1 Ki. 21:3) His example thus speaks to us because any one of us may face persecution for similar reasons. (Read 2 Timothy 3:12.) People of all backgrounds can readily understand, remember, and apply such a faith-strengthening lesson.
12 Should we conclude that Bible narratives have only a practical application and no other meaning? No. Today our publications are more likely to teach that one thing reminds us of or serves to illustrate another. They are less likely to present many Bible accounts in a rigid framework of prophetic types and anti-types. For example, we can rightly say that Naboth’s integrity in the face of persecution and death reminds us of the integrity of Christ and his anointed. However, we can also be reminded of the faithful stand of many of the Lord’s “other sheep.” Such a clear and simple comparison has the hallmark of divine teaching.
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Crazyguy
Notice how they used some obscure teachings as examples rather then pointing out let say the stupid ones they used in the revelation climax book. Also they use old ones very old instead of newer examples, all designed to sneak the point across as not to wake anyone up, that they have just thrown the baby out with the bath water. -
DATA-DOG
They are masters of deceit and propaganda. Sadly, many fail to see that an Xian sect which stems from Adventism has nothing left but to become a mainstream "born again-ish" sect without types and anti-types. What's next, actual charity???
The WTBTS has beat the odds and remained somewhat viable, despite it's history of false prophecies, and date setting.
There is someone in the WTBTS who has convinced the ruling powers to get in front of these glaring issues. The Information Age is killing them and they hope that they can spin away their past errors for good.
The only way to do this, IMO, is to selectively and gradually address obscure teachings that virtually no one remembers. Then use that "strawman" as a basis to show "progress." This isn't too hard when your consumer base is ignorant and you hide all your old teachings.
I wonder, now that the FDS is the most discreet it has ever been in history, will they stop DF'ing or slandering anyone who disagrees with speculative teachings?
DD
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Wild_Thing
Wow. I can hardly believe what I'm reading! They are actually admitting to what they taught in the past AND admitting it was wrong? Wow! That's a change from deny, deny, deny. I guess the copyright on those old books aren't old enough for them to completely deny yet. -
hoser
I'm at the study right now and the brainwashed sheeples are lapping it up as nu lite -
Xanthippe
Welcom Deltawave, good to have you here. I'm not surprised they didn't get it but many of us here did. They are trying to ditch the 1914 generation once and for all right under the noses of the brothers and sisters. I said this on a thread a few days ago about this Watchtower article,
This is all part of the move away from the end is coming one generation after 1914 I think. They now have been given a peaceful world to preach in for, oh maybe twenty or thirty more years, or even a hundred, depending how you overlap those generations.
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Crazyguy
I wonder if some Christian scholar has pointed out these inaccuracies in and article he published and the GB are just copying his opinions? They seamed to have done this with the teaching that there is no bad Faithful slave. Some guy wrote and article and they jumped all over it.