Radioactive water from failed Fukushima Nuclear Plant leaking into Pacific

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  • 144001
    144001

    Glander,

    What hype? I don't recall asserting that the "great whites were hanging around because they had no appetite." In fact, there is no explanation for the prevalence of white sharks there and the lack of attacks. The general consensus of the scientists who are looking at this is that the sharks that are hanging out there are immature; they eat fish only and don't start eating mammals until they reach a certain age.

    Problems at San Onofre are not "hype." The situation was bad enough that the entire plant is now in the process of being shut down.

  • James Brown
    James Brown

    Pee is sterile.

    Radiation can kill you, and destroy the food chain.

  • Glander
    Glander

    This thread was started with a panicky tone . My response has been that we really don't know how serious it really is.

    The same thing happened when the tsumami damaged the Fukushima plant. People on the west coast of the US were urged by some on this site to start taking doses of potassium iodine to combat the effects of radiation poisoning. The fact is that ingesting PO willy nilly can cause serious side effects. Radiation never came to the US in any significant way.

  • 144001
    144001

    Glander,

    I agree with that, but nevertheless, what's going on at Fukushima is obviously an environmental threat and has been since the tsunami struck. Only time can reveal just how serious this situation was and is.

    I have stopped buying sashimi sourced in Japan. I shop at a Japanese market that imports fish from all over the world. Usually, their yellowtail tuna comes from Japan. I stopped buying that, just as a precaution. But I'm not about to start popping pills of any kind over this. Panic is never wise.

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    Sure, our western 'freedom of the press,' does permit media sources to publish exaggerated statements in the belief that 'disasters' are profitable. However, I would rate the Australian ABC, as a more responsible news organisation. Whatever rating we may give the ABC's treatment of the story (from cool to sensationalist), the Fukushima disaster IS rated at level 7 on the International Nuclear Event Scale. Only one other disaster has been rated at that level - and that's Chernobyl. The Chernobyl stupidity has had a real impact on the lives of people in the vicinity, it is difficult to measure the extent though, people get sick with cancer even without exposure to what is called 'excessive' radiation levels. Also, specific to the former Soviet Union, there seems to have been an attempt to obfuscate the health affects, particularly in connection with affects of radiation on the health of the some 500,000 workers who were engaged in some aspect of the clean-up. ( A large figure that seems the result of sending workers into the site for short periods only. Some estimates put the additional (to normal) death rate at about 20% for those workers. The break-down of the former Soviet Union and the formation of an independent Ukraine may also have made accurate data collection difficult. However, it seems fair to say that there is an impact on the health of people affected. It's also true that some former residents of the surrounding villages have chosen to return to their former homes. In a quick search I observed no details available on any significant, observable health problems for these people. Native wild-life has increased in the now (mainly) deserted area around the reactor. Some efforts are being made to collect data on those animals. I have had no time to search for any reports. I suppose that including images like this deformed piglet is sensationalist, nonetheless it reminds us of the possible affects on humans. File:Kiev-UkrainianNationalChernobylMuseum 15.jpg Piglet with Dipygus on exhibit at the Ukrainian National Chornobyl Museum. Mutations in both humans and other animals increased following the disaster. On farms in Narodychi Raion of Ukraine, for instance, in the first four years of the disaster nearly 350 animals were born with gross deformities such as missing or extra limbs, missing eyes, heads or ribs, or deformed skulls; in comparison, only three abnormal births had been registered in the five years prior. Despite these claims, the World Health Organization states, "children conceived before or after their father's exposure showed no statistically significant differences in mutation frequencies (from a Wikipedia entry on Chernobyl). While both the quantity and quality of data from Chernobyl is lacking, its arguable that the impact is significant. If Fukushima is on the same scale (as its been rated) then its impact will also be significant. I'll post an overview from the British Independent newspaper separately. Finally, while appreciating Glander's attempts at humour, I'll spoil the joke (a little) by pointing out that in a healthy person, urine is sterile, and quite safe to drink. If your ever caught in a desert area, you may possibly extend your life long enough for rescuers to find you, if you drink your own piss.

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    Someone asked for estimates of contaminated water flows. This report claims 300 tons a day.

    A Fukushima fisherman's tale: Radioactive water from the Daiichi plant is flowing into the ocean at a rate of 300 tons a day

    DAVID MCNEILL Author Biography - SOMA, EASTERN JAPAN

    WEDNESDAY 07 AUGUST 2013

    Old habits die hard among fishermen. Yoshio Ichida still rises for work every day at 3am and checks the engine of his five-ton boat. Then, as the sun rises over the Pacific and the trawler bobs gently in Soma wharf, he switches off the engine and gazes out at a sea too poisoned to fish.

    Just 27 miles up the coast from this small harbour town, radioactivity from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant leaks into the ocean, and into the sardines, mackerel and squid that three generations of Mr Ichida's family once caught.

    Engineers are fighting what appears to be a losing battle to stop the leaks from worsening.

    Japan's Nuclear Regulatory Authority (NRA) warned this week that the build-up of contaminated groundwater at the plant is on the verge of tipping out of control and that its operator, Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco), "lacked a sense of crisis" about the looming damage to the Pacific.

    "Right now, we have an emergency," said Shinji Kinjo, the head of an NRA task force. Mr Kinjo warned that leaking water had already flowed over a barrier built by engineers to block it. "The water could accelerate very quickly," he said.

    A survey released today by Japan's Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry said water laced with caesium and other radioactive materials is flowing into the ocean at a rate of 300 tons a day. The ministry, which oversees the nuclear industry, said it could not rule out the possibility that the water has been leaking into the Pacific since the crisis began more than two years ago.

    Critics have accused the NRA of allowing Tepco off the hook. After months of denials, the embattled utility was finally forced to admit the groundwater leaks last week. Many suspect the admission was conveniently delayed until Japan's pro-nuclear Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe, had solidified his power in the recent general election. Anti-nuclear voices in the media were muted during the election campaign and on occasion silenced completely: a YouTube video showing Mr Abe's security confiscating an anti-nuclear sign during a speech in Fukushima has gone viral - but never been seen on TV.

    Tepco said it is "unable to say" if the latest government figures for the size of the leak are accurate. But last week it admitted a cumulative leak of 20 trillion to 40 trillion becquerels of radioactive tritium since the earthquake and tsunami on 11 March 2011 that triggered the triple meltdown. Tritium, one of the cocktail of contaminants swimming in the onsite water, has a half-life of about 12 years.

    This month, Tepco acknowledged that levels of radioactive caesium-134 were at their highest point since the disaster began. "We're sorry for delaying this information," said Yoshikazu Nagai, a Tepco spokesman. "We're trying very hard to stop the leaks and fix the problem."

    Mr Ichida is not surprised. "Tepco is still trying to hide things from us," he says. "They haven't changed a bit. The 54-year-old, who survived the tsunami by driving his boat into the open sea, despairs that the crisis will ever end. "We must work to revive Fukushima fishing, but it is probably not likely," he says, choking back tears. "Why would young people go into this profession?"

    Yoshio Ichida was out fishing when the waves wrecked his home

    Yoshio Ichida was out fishing when the waves wrecked his home

    The build-up of contaminated water in the Daiichi's ruined hulk was long predicted. Engineers pump about 400 tons of water a day onto the plant's reactors to keep its melted nuclear fuel cool, and inevitably some leaks underground. The radioactive water is stored in more than 1,000 giant onsite tanks, which are almost full. The plant's makeshift decontamination system cannot keep up with the amount of toxic water being produced.

    The recent admissions have forced the government to step into what many experts now consider the world's most complex ever nuclear clean-up. Mr Abe has ordered his government to help the struggling utility, a move that is likely to involve a huge injection of money into building an artificial underground wall to block the toxic water from reaching the Pacific. The Nikkei business newspaper estimates the cost of the operation at about $400m.

    Experts say the government's admission shows that the crisis at the Daiichi complex is being managed, not solved. "It is an emergency - has been since 11 March 2011 and will continue to be long into the future," said Shaun Burnie, an independent nuclear consultant. He says onsite contaminated water contains three times the caesium released from the 1986 Chernobyl accident - the world's worst nuclear disaster. "That underscores the scale of this never-ending threat."

    That news is a disaster to fishermen like Mr Ichida. Every Thursday he and his colleagues learn the latest radioactive readings from the sea. "Until recently, we only detected caesium, but now we detect strontium, which has a much longer life-span," he says.

    He and hundreds of other fishermen who used to work the Fukushima coast now while away their days mending nets and boats they may never use.

    A government-funded project that pays them a little to collect debris from the sea ends in November. Some are contemplating virtually the only work left in the area: decontaminating Fukushima towns and villages poisoned by radiation.

    "We have all made a living from the sea. We love the sea. We are proud of it and the work we got from it," he says, choking back tears again.

    "We must pass it on to the next generation. We will never get back what we had but we have to keep demanding that Tepco and the government take responsibility."

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    This video report from SBS (another government financed media network) and their dateline program:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB-K78L8oNI

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    So, are the above views on the scale of the disaster correct?

    This video sponsored by the World Nuclear Association (An organisation apparently financed by companies involved in the production of nuclear power):

    How do we make a decision as to who is right?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ncm8KwxWNg

  • Glander
    Glander

    You guys have fun.

    Bye,

    "Never call me a party pooper"

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    A Japanese Physicist speaks on CNN a little while after the disaster. It does not inspire faith in government reassuarances, does it?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXwI0HM9BYM

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