The Governing Body’s irrational fear of the Apostate Boogeyman

by Londo111 25 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Truth seeker 674 - "then what happens?"

    I've said this before, but organisms that cannot adapt to a changing environment are doomed to extinction.

    The WTS was extremely well-adapted to its environment (especially during the Cold War), but I'm having a hard time imagining how a semi-secretive apocalyptic millennialist authoritarian high-control group can adapt to (and thusly survive in) the rapidly changing, information-saturated, Wikileaks-level-transparency-craving environment of the 21stCentury.

  • Resistance is Futile
    Resistance is Futile

    I've often wondered about the benefits vs. costs in feeding the paranoia of those with power in the Watchtower cult.

    Increasing the paranoia is surprisingly easy. One way is to feed their fear of having "apostates" in their midst. They clearly do have people on the inside that are no longer loyal, as demonstrated by leaks of sensitive material. It's one thing to fear the boogeyman when he's outside the walls of the city. Believing that the enemy has breached the defenses of the group and now walks among them is a whole new level of fear.

    I feel that stoking the leader's paranoia could create a positive feedback loop whereby the leadership becomes more authoritarian and heavy-handed. This slow but noticeable change in the control exerted by those in charge could be the wakeup call that many of the more moderate followers need. The more "sane" members will be marginalized, even pushed out by the increased pressure for loyalty to the edicts of the exalted Governing Body. The demographics of the group slowly shifts, until the more extreme members become the majority.

    However, those who can't see a way out of the group are then subjected to the increased control over every minuscule detail of their behavior and emotions. It's admittedly a dangerous gambit, one that I somewhat troubled by. If the end result were decreased membership or a decreased growth rate, and therefore less people ensnared in the cult, than the ends could justify the means.

  • ABibleStudent
    ABibleStudent

    Resistance is Futile - However, those who can't see a way out of the group are then subjected to the increased control over every minuscule detail of their behavior and emotions. It's admittedly a dangerous gambit, one that I somewhat troubled by. If the end result were decreased membership or a decreased growth rate, and therefore less people ensnared in the cult, than the ends could justify the means.

    I don't see anything wrong with increasing the pressure on the GB both inside the WTBTS and outside the WTBTS in ways that do not feed the persecution complex of R&F JWs. To me writing to politicians and the news media are proactive ways to educate two groups that are duped and help the WTBTS. Helping to discuss ways to reverse witness and share information about successes on JWN are other ways to increase the paranoia of the GB. Spreading the word about successful legal cases (e.g., Candace Conti's) to JWs are another example. Asking simple questions and being tolerant of JWs and JW apologists (instead of immediately labeling them a troll) are other ways to help individual JWs to awaken.

    None of the aforementioned activities are illegal, immoral, nor persecute R&F JWs. Everyone has the ability to choose whether to follow the GB and the GB members have the ability to free themselves from the legacy of the WTBTS, so in my opinion let the blind lead the blind into a pit and do not feel remorse for their choices.

    NIV Bible Mt 15:12-14 -

    12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”

    13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides. [d] If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”

    Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

    Robert

  • fresh prince of ohio
    fresh prince of ohio

    [Jaracz] said that the Governing Body had been preparing for much longer than anybody could guess for an attack by apostates

    Wow. Like, how exactly? Apostate-driven tanks gonna show up at Bethel's front door someday? dafuq?

    "Breaking news, apparently a large group of former Jehovahs Witnesses are attacking the headquarters of the Watchtower Bible Society in Brooklyn Heights..."

    ROFL! Jaracz was mad as a hatter!!

    "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history." - Dan Quayle

  • Julia Orwell
    Julia Orwell

    You'd think they'd be happy to have Armageddon brought on. Aren't they all hanging out for it?

  • zound
    zound

    That's interesting..

    I often wonder how the GB and upper management view apostates - the Rank and file view them as boogeymen, but the upper ranks are aware of what apostates know, so I wondered how they justify things.

    I phoned Bethel yesterday after not recieving a reply to a letter.

    Wow! the cognitive dissonence and denial in the brother I spoke to was painful to witness.

    This is somone who knew pretty much everything we know about the Society but was so deep in denial - I guess it was a small glimpse of how the GB must be.

    He was lying and misdirecting as easily as he was breathing - and I'm pretty sure he believed everything he was saying. His justifications and avoiding issues was the sworn enemy of reason - so easy to pick apart everything he said (of course I barely got to say anything as he wasn't listening)

    I was told that it was obvious my questions were not genuine and the Society do not bother answering questions from disgruntled Jehovah's Witnesses. He said they rather talk to people of other religions who are seeking 'truth', than Jehovah's Witnesses that ask critical questions about child abuse policies etc.

    He said they have heard these 'apostate' issues in phone calls and letters and the media for years but don't bother replying or acknowledging them as it's a 'waste of the Society's time'. (I was going to mention that the society in their public response to the UN incident 'thanked those who brought the issue to their attention' when they were publically outed in the media - But could barely get a word in edgewise)

    He was getting quite heated as he threw the usual bullshit at me. He ended the 'conversation' by saying it's lunch time and he has to go to eat.

    Running away from the truth as usual.

  • Quendi
    Quendi

    I want to thank both vidiot and zound for their insights on this thread. They are spot on and have given me food for thought.

    Quendi

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Julia Orwell - "You'd think they'd be happy to have Armageddon brought on. Aren't they all hanging out for it?"

    Congratulations.

    You've stumbled upon one of the weirder paradoxes inherent in a number of apocalyptic religions; a significant percentage of their memberships (rank-and-file and leadership) are simultaneously anxious for the Apocalypse to come (for various reasons), while at the same time scared it's gonna come too soon.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Zound - "I often wonder how the GB and upper management view apostates - the Rank and file view them as boogeymen, but the upper ranks are aware of what apostates know, so I wondered how they justify things."

    I thought about that, too, at one point, and wondered how the leadership level could possibly function through all the cognitive dissonance that it must be experiencing... it really had me scratching my head.

    Then I remembered a Bush II-era GOP House rep and rabid born-again Christian named Tom Delay; who was - by all credible indications - a full-on True Believer that completely and thoroughly subscribed to his religion's tenets...

    ...who was indicted for money laundering during the Bush II years.

    I couldn't figure out how he could reconcile so many significant aspects of his chosen belief system that seemed to be in direct conflict with his political ideology and actions. I did some reading, and learned that he seems able to successfully compartmentalize his beliefs, goals, and methods; i.e. the inherent conflicts don't cause him the kind of emotional and intellectual discomfort it would for you and me.

    From that, I've came to the conclusion that authoritarian personalities - particularly those in leadership positions - don't experience cognitive dissonance the way the rest of us do.

  • adamah
    adamah

    Yeah, it's the classic 'in-group' vs 'out-group' game, which, if you read the article you'd see actually IS biblically-based, eg with Psalms declaring how eg David hates those who are said to be the enemies of God.

    Never-mind that Jesus commanded the opposite paradoxical approach ("love your enemy"); the contradictory advise only allows a smorgasborg of options from which believers feel entitled to choose. JWs claim to be the living embodiment of the children of Israel one minute, then followers of Jesus the next.

    That's why posters might ask themselves if they're not actually HELPING the GB (and facilitating others staying in the Borg) by offering evidence that seemingly fulfills the GBs claim of ALL apostates being mentally-diseased bitter individuals who act as agents of Satan, filled with hate. How are you harming them by living up to their expectations? Seems that is allowing them to STILL control you vs plotting your own course.

    If you give people enough room, they'll soon reveal their TRUE natures; that goes for JWs GB (spouting THEIR intense HATE) and so-called "apostates" (some of whom ARE paradoxically following the example of Jesus even more than the JW's GB, operating out of concern for those members who are trapped in the borg who they don't even know, and likely never will meet).

    Even though I personally don't believe Jesus was a divine being, etc, it doesn't mean I've thrown out ALL of his wisdom, and cannot recogize the fundamental truths in what he said, where Jesus was ALL ABOUT explaining how compelling people to act driven by love is healthier and more effective than trying to motive people to act out of fear (it's the classic 'carrot vs stick' situation, where one single blow from the stick undermines all the carrots that were offered).

    Vidiot said-

    From that, I've came to the conclusion that authoritarian personalities - particularly those in leadership positions - don't experience cognitive dissonance the way the rest of us do.

    There's a spectrum of personalities on the GB, and Ray Franz' book 'Crisis of Conscience' touches on the various personality types who served on the GB, from those who were actually trying to do "God's Will" to those who were more aware of the sense of control and power they exerted.

    It's safe to conclude they're ALL dedicated "company men", having many more decades of 'managment experience' in the organization that most; hence they are no strangers to playing the games of navigating the power structure of the organization, and are more invested into it's perpetuation. It's not so much about personal wealth, but moreso about the rewards of feeding the same ego needs of a typical JW: wanting to please God, and telling themselves they are KEY players in the events described in the Bible, the living fulfillment of Jesus' words about the FDS.

    However, they're all trapped from implementing chance due to the implementation of an organizational structure that guarantees diffusion of resposbility, where if they don't personally feel like they're feeling "holy spirit", they cannot voice their personal doubts, and will alleviate guilt for feeling like a poseur by telling themselves, "well, the other brothers seem filled with spirit, so I'll just go along with the group".

    Adam

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