We've Never Had it So Good!

by Latte 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Latte
    Latte
    Our teachers were ex-servicemen who were psychotic losers, I was caned, on the hand by 9 (nine) different teachers during my time at school.

    WOW Englishman….that’s aweful! I remember being in class (junior school) when the ex-serviceman teacher wacked these friends of mine, with the ‘L’ shaped ruler, which was used for the teachers blackboard. (it seemed huge to me at the time) He told the little lads to bend over the desk….. they cried, what a brute he was. This kind of school punishment is now a thing of the past over here….phew!
    I only had the 'cane' once....that was enough!

    Latte

  • COMF
    COMF

    Since the author was talking about England (or Britain, if you insist), and since you Britishers say that's how it was there, I'll concede. My comments are from my own experience of that time. It certainly wasn't a global condition.

    COMF

    Ah, love! could you and I with Him conspire
    To grasp this sorry scheme of things entire,
    Would not we shatter it to bits--and then
    Re-mould it nearer to the heart's desire!

  • larc
    larc

    COMF,

    Do remember sleeping on a hot August night with no air conditioning, watching 3 channels on a nine inch color tv that costs $2,000 in today's dollars, taking a long trip before interstates, typing on a mechanical typewriter, seeing people die that could be saved today, knowing people who were blind that can now be cured??
    I think we have it much better today.

  • larc
    larc

    COMF,

    I wanted to add that since 1950, the life expectancy in the U.S. has gone up by 7 years. I'd say that is better than the good old days.

  • COMF
    COMF

    larc, I stated above:

    In some ways, we live in a better world now. In some ways, it's far worse.

    If you can list three or four things that are better today and use that to convince yourself that because of that, life as a whole is better, then go for it.

    COMF

    Ah, love! could you and I with Him conspire
    To grasp this sorry scheme of things entire,
    Would not we shatter it to bits--and then
    Re-mould it nearer to the heart's desire!

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Monty Python explained it best:

    Eric: Who'd a thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Chateau de Chassilier?

    Michael: Aye. In them days, we'd a' been glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.

    Graham: A cup o' COLD tea.

    Eric: Without milk or sugar.

    Terry J: OR tea!

    Michael: In a cracked cup, and all.

    Eric: We never had a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.

    Graham: The best WE could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.

    Terry J: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.

    Michael: Aye. BECAUSE we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

    Eric: 'E was right. I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'. We used to live in this tiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.

    Graham: House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing and we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!

    Terry J: You were lucky to have a ROOM! We used to have to live in a corridor!

    Michael: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor! Woulda' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House!? Hmph.

    Eric: Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered by a sheet of tarpolin, it was a house to US.

    Graham: We were evicted from our hole in the ground; we had to go and live in a lake!

    Terry J: You were lucky to have a LAKE! There were a hundred and fifty of us living in a shoebox in the middle of the road.

    Michael: Cardboard box?

    Terry J: Aye.

    Michael: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down the mill for fourteen hours a day week in week out, for sixpence a week. When we got home, out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!

    Graham: Luxury! We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, work twenty hour a day at the mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!

    Terry J: Well of course, we had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues. We had half two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.

    Eric: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our Mother would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."

    Michael: And you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.

    All: They won't.. End.

    Englishman.

  • COMF
    COMF

    Makes walking barefoot uphill both to and from school in 10-foot snowdrifts kind of tame by comparison, E. :)

    COMF

    Ah, love! could you and I with Him conspire
    To grasp this sorry scheme of things entire,
    Would not we shatter it to bits--and then
    Re-mould it nearer to the heart's desire!

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Hello,

    Like Comf, I would argue that humans are enjoying a much better life-style generally than they were a thousand years ago, but only at the cost of incurring a less attractive and very, very dangerous world for non-humans to live in. So a retort to this letter cannot divorce itself from tomorrow’s life, which by all evidence is not going to be a ‘better life’.

    Given that we rely on the earth and that it does not rely on us., the reality is that human life *is* threatened by the dangerous environment that an industrial and self-seeking world has developed. We cannot have any life, let alone a ‘better life’ without a healthy planet to live upon.

    Part of my work forces me to delve heavily into environmental issues and I am afraid I have no news of a better world tomorrow to offer anyone - only bleak realities of a wrecked planet. Those who think that ‘today’s environmental world is open for business have not seen the shades coming down. I recently attended at a local University a lecture given by an expert in the environmental field. His computer models of tomorrow’s world were not comforting.

    For example, in the UK 93% of the forests which once covered Europe have been destroyed the past 300 years. Since WWII 80% of the meadows in Britain have been leveled, only 20% of the worlds rain-forest, on which we depend for life remain after 200 years of tree-felling. This is just one *small* area of the environmental threat facing us all.

    Even more depressing is the fact that during the past ten years, when so much attention has been focused on our rain-forests, more trees have been felled than were the previous 20 years.

    You may disagree with the WTS that we are living in the ‘end times’ of this system, but this should not make us, or our children who own the future of this planet, complacent to the reality of a precarious future.

    The planet will take care of itself eventually, it always has , but most certainly at the sacrifice of our ‘better lives’.

    Best regards - HS

  • sleepy
    sleepy

    Brilliant Englishy,

    Thats just like my Dads family.
    "When I was a lad ......"

    What you yanks have got to remmeber is that us Europeans had been through two world wars , not on or door steps , but in our houses.
    Things were definately worse.

  • Thirdson
    Thirdson

    May I add my bit on the "good old days" from a ex-pat Brit.

    I grew up in an industrialized city when most working-class househoulds still burnt coal. I remember when I was young that we had switched over to coke, later to coal-gas and then everyone converted to natural gas. Pollution was so bad in the 1950s that people died from smog. In December 1952 3,500 to 4000 people died in London as a direct result of the fog. In the winter of 1962/63 the smog in the city where we lived was so bad that traffic was brought to a halt. My oldest brother had to be led home in a group by an assigned 6th former at 4:30 P.M. in near zero visibility conditions.

    We used to (7 of us) drive around in a big (medium-sized at best in US terms) sedan with no seatbelts. It was so rusty at 9 years old that it had large patches of fibreglass and resin holding body panels together. On one journey a rear wheel came apart because it had deteriorated so bad. (Dad told mom it was a puncture so as not to worry her.)

    We had a bathroom in our house but no indoor toilet until 1966. Some school friend's home had a galvanized tub that set up each week in front of a fire to bath in. I remember growing up an only bathing twice a week. Ewww! I know.

    On Saturday nights we'd watch the "Black and White Minstrel Show" where all the male singers were white who blacked their faces. We saw nothing wrong about that.

    At school, kids were beaten with rulers, canes and sneakers. I remember (3rd grade) one kid being beaten mercilessly by the headmaster. He boasted that the kid had shrieked and wailed at his earlier beating in his office.

    My dad still laments about the "good old days" but I tell my son that life has never been so good. I am right.

    Thirdson

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