Can you ever help these people?

by sleepy 19 Replies latest jw friends

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  LB

  The consequences of leaving the Jehovah Kingdom Hall were made manifest before the were reborn in water

  This is far from the truth. I point blank asked if I would have any problems down the road should I choose to just quit. The elder I studied with told me it wasn't a big thing, just filling out a slip of paper.

  No mention was made that I would be treated exactly the same as if I were disassociated. That I would be shunned by family and friends.

  So I didn't DA myself but have to live the half truth now.

  
  Never Squat With Yer Spurs On
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  flower

  LB, of course you are right but do us all a favor and DONT FEED THE TROLLS.
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  Xenu

  TR:
  I am not aware or have ever been aware of filling out a slip of paper. Did you fill out the slip of paper? When were you baptized, I find it interesting that before your baptism you asked "if i would have any problems down the road should I choose to quite", for if this question were presented today, it would be obvious such a person was not prepared for rebirth and would not have basic knowledge.

  Flower:
  In the event you do not agree with someone, there is no need to resort to name calling. I will ignore your posts from now on, I ask that you do the same to mine.
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  og

  People can be helped. I was a zealous, brainwashed "True Believer", and I got over it, partly due to the Internet and the fine people on this Board.

  LB: I agree with your comment - much deception about voluntary disassociation.

  Xenu: fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

  Flower: I won't feed him again.
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  blondie

  Why do abused wives stay with their husbands?

  Why do some abused children defend their parents?

  Why do friends and family members make excuses for the alcoholics in their lives?

  Why do friends and family members make excuses for the drug addicts in their lives?

  Why do people stay in a job with an abusive supervisor?

  I hope you see a pattern developing.

  Fear is the moving emotion but a fear of what is unknown or what they imagine is worse outside the situation.

  Abused wives wonder how they will provide for their families and are convinced the abuser will escalate his abuse and kill them and the children.

  Abused children are afraid to break up their family and/or that they will be the hated one not the abuser.

  Friends and family members of alcoholics and drug addicts don’t want to rock the boat. The alcoholic/drug addict might lose their job. The friends/family members become enablers rather than face the user. “We have to protect the family name,” “It’s my fault they drink/use,” “how will the family support themselves,”

  And keeping a job you hate with an abusive supervisor. Fear of not being able to get another job that makes as much. Fear of going back to school. Fear, fear, fear.

  So it's a common response to abuse and abusers. Of course, you lose something by standing up for yourself. But what do you lose by staying?
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  LB

  flower I'm normally not a troll feeder, but, it got me this time

  
  Never Squat With Yer Spurs On
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  og

  Hello, my name is og, and to my shame I'm a recovering troll feeder.
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  Xenu

  og: I do not have a horse. Your use of language is quite offensive, and certainly uncalled for. I certainly do not look for confrontaion, so I will no longer reply to your posts. Please do not reply to mine.

  TR: In the event you do not agree with someone, there is no need to resort to name calling. I will ignore your posts from now on, I ask that you do the same to mine
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  jerome

  Whats with all the ignoring?

  jerome
  3xx
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  Solace

  Witnesses are conditioned to be dependant on the org.
  They are told by the society that it is their "spiritual family" and "it is their only means to salvation".
  When I found out the truth about the W.T.S I was very angry and desperate to find the true "religion".
  I think a persons faith should be their own decision. It is up to the individual if and how they want to continue a relationship with God. It is not anyone elses responsibility to decide someones faith. That, after all is how most of us got into this mess to begin with.
  Giving examples of what we did to help us get through our ordeal is one thing, saying that it is the only way to deal with it is another.