I had NO idea about the letter to Hitler...... (page 2)

Bella15

Right on .. @

"...I often say that all you need to determine what WT is guilty of is to see what they argue about, defend or condemn others for doing. This is a sure sign WT is/was guilty of doing the exact same thing..."

LOL

Trevor Scott

On this topic, check out the excellent post by Leolaia in this thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/167940/1/1934-Yearbook-pp-127-140-by-request

Iown Mylife

To: anddon'tcallmeShirley: thank you for that great, simple logic that i cannot believe i didn't think of before! Realllly good!!

rmt1

"The JW's suffering under the Nazi regime was only exacerbated by Rutherford's arrogance and needless confrontation with the world's most evil man."

My day goes from better to better. This, and this thread, explain sooooo much. Scales from the eyes...

Flg8ter

It really is amazing! Trevor, THANK YOU for that link to Leolaia's comment. The amazing thing is again, all this information is out there!! What I really really don't get is, knowing it's out there, why would the GB mention it in a talk at a convention?? Every thing they do, every word spoken at conventions, most times are so carefully chosen.......everything they do and say at a convention, special talk,ect....has a purpose. What is their endgame....their reason for mentioning it?? They gotta know, anyone with half a brain or a lil independent thought is gonna look it up! Why mention it? Are they looking to weed out R & F that ask about it, knowing they would have to have gotten from "apostate" sites?? I don't get it........

kepler

"It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis was published in 1935. My paperback edition is a 350 page novel about an American implementation of the concepts of Mein Kampf. I am not sure when Sinclair Lewis actually sat down to his typewriter or started to draft his version of what was happening in Germany transferred to America, but I don't think it was instantaneous in 1935 either. His wife Dorothy Thompson was a Berlin correspondent from 1927, interviewed Hitler, wrote a book about it in 1932 ( "I Saw Hitler") and was expelled from the country for it in 1934. Since Lewis also wrote "Elmer Gantry", I can't help thinking he was something of a clairvoyant in these matters. They are almost like companion volumes. Maybe Rutherford should have read "It Can't Happen Here" or Thompson's reporting from Germany sometime when he wasn't writing of, speaking of and profiting from Armageddon talk himself.

AndDontCallMeShirley

"The JW's suffering under the Nazi regime was only exacerbated by Rutherford's arrogance and needless confrontation with the world's most evil man."

I would go a step further and say that the persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses by Hitler was solely because of Rutherford's arrogant stupidity. Prior to Rutherford's action the JWs weren't even on Hitler's radar.

Apognophos

why would the GB mention it in a talk at a convention

I don't believe that was part of the outline, though I could be wrong. But I don't remember hearing it at my convention. I wouldn't be surprised if that brother added it for effect, having vaguely heard the accusation but not knowing the truthfulness of the situation.

Iown Mylife

anddon'tcallmeshirley: as you say. Really seems like they deliberately went about creating martyrs like in Malawi.

Hillary

Even without these letters and Rutherford's arrogance/stupidity, wouldn't JW persecution have still happened since they refused to go to war?

I had NO idea about the letter to Hitler......

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