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ThatSucks

Hello again Spiderman.

you said:

TS, thanks for your comments and I will keep your thoughts in mind as I post in this forum.

I am glad you will keep my comments in mind. While I am appreciative of your attention, I would still like to know your thoughts on the question I asked you when you said:

I have read many sad stories in the archives of many of you. Unfortunately many were stumbled by man and that is sad in itself.

I will repeat my question to you once again for your convienence:

Having said that, what do you hope to accomplish here by telling 'both sides of the story', since you too are being led by men (because I know that God doesn't write the WT and AWAKE)?

Thank you in advance for your time and effort. Also, in response to another poster you said:

Well, let's put it this way. According to the Bible, Satan was once an angel and part of Jehovah's invisible organization in heaven. Yet, he did stumble Adam and Eve. Although Jehovah can control everything and everyone, he chooses not to. In today's organization here on earth, men inside the religion cause others to stumble. Jesus gave warning about this happening in the last days.

Please explain where in the bible it is stated "Satan was once an angel and part of Jehovah's invisible organization in heaven." I cannot find reference to it.

Also, could not the Catholic Pope say that "men inside the religion cause others to stumble" and that the Catholic church is pure when confronted with problems in the Catholic religion?

I just find it odd that you can blame entire religions in one breath for what you say are simply the mistakes of men in another.

Why is a priest who molests a child a product of their religion while a JW elder who molests a child is a fallible man who made a mistake? Are they not BOTH fallible men who made mistakes? Or, are they not BOTH the result of their religious teachings?

Could you not be unduley biassed when you make statements as you did above in your response?

Thank you for your time.

Fredhall

AlanF,

You may count yourself of being dishonest.

Valis

AlanF, maybe he's right about being stumbled by man...it seems to me that its a fairly profound statement when you consider everything they write is concocted by a few nutcases in Brooklyn. How could anyone not be stumbled by a religious experience that strays so far from the concept of humanity and reason?

Welcome Spidey, hope you enjoy your time here and perhaps you can give us your perspective. My only piece of advice would be to not get off on the wrong foot by trying to prove your point w/WTBS litterature or belief. What we want to hear is YOUR opinion, experiences, and stories. It matters much more than the party line, and will get you much farther than trying to purport the same old stumbling blocks most of us have fallen over as JWs.

Sincerely,

District Overbeer

og

Spiderman, if you really want to have intelligent discussion, do yourself and the rest of us a favor and go to

http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/index2.htm

and read just about everything, especially Alan's material. Will save much time.

Spiderman

Six, I see how your experiences would be of value.

AjaxMan, thanks for your welcome, I'm happy that you know castillean, you know that it's the real spanish, right? LOL. By the way, have you noticed Barcelona's team? Ajax might me in trouble.

brutalbee: you said "You're really catching on fast.", thanks but I must give credit to the creator of this forum. When I registered there is a link with a tutorial on how to use the code used in this forum such as

, etc...
Adonai: Thank you for your kind words, I will keep them in mind. I do love Jehovah very much as he has blessed me in many ways.
TS: Interesting question you ask. Please do not take my comments as an insult as that is not my intention.
You say:
Please explain where in the bible it is stated "Satan was once an angel and part of Jehovah's invisible organization in heaven." I cannot find reference to it.
You will be able to find the answer in the book of Ezequiel.
You also asked:
what do you hope to accomplish here by telling 'both sides of the story', since you too are being led by men (because I know that God doesn't write the WT and AWAKE)?
I think the problem with this question is that you are assuming that I am a follower of men. I am not, I follow the one and only true God Almighty Jehovah and his son Jesus. I make a sincere effort in everyday life to follow in the footsteps of our savior. When I am confronted with decisions I do not ask myself, "what would the GB do in this situation?", but I ask myself "what would JesusChrist do in this situation?". This is what guides me in life. I have seen many bad men and women inside the organization, but since I am not a follower men, it does not cause me to be stumbled. I always wait and allow Jehovah to guide me as my loving father.
Now to answer your question directly, I hope to accomplish what I said at first, just to give my opinion from inside Jehovah's organization.
Valis: You picture looks very painful, LOL, I could never do something like that, I guess I'm a wimp. I will also keep your words in mind and try not to preach from my bound volumes, but from my heart and soul.
og: I will look at the site later, thanks.

Prisila

Hombre, como estas? Hablas espa~ol? Tambien soy Testigo de Jehova desde hace 23 a~os? De que parte de Espa~a eres?

Spiderman

Prisila: mucho gusto, soy de Barcelona. Puedes hacer la "ñ" usando "Alt" + "164" y walla la famosa ñ. Alt + 165 = Ñ.

Valis

Spidey, not half as painfull as having your family fracture into pieces, because you wanted to be free of the WTBS. Not as painfull as losing loved ones to disease or illness that a transplant or transfusion could have undoubtedly helped. I could go on, but you'll get the idea if you hang around long enough. BTW, you said

I think the problem with this question is that you are assuming that I am a follower of men. I am not, I follow the one and only true God Almighty Jehovah and his son Jesus

The irresistable questions begs....Could you follow Jehovah and Jesus without being a JW?

Sincerely,

District Overbeer

AjaxMan

Hombre Arana,

Gracias. Al menos, usted es uno de los pocos Testigos de Jehova que no vienen con necedades.

Hablando del futbol, Me da lastima como el Barcelona no esta jugando bien ya que despues del Ajax de Amsterdam, el Barcelona FC es mi equipo favorito. Veremos si para la proxima temporada, podramos conseguir a Carlos Bianchi como entrenador o tambien a los argentinos Juan Roman Riquelme y Juan Sebastian Veron para jugar el mediocampo.

Gracias.

AjaxMan

Hombre Arana,

Tengo una pregunta:

Puede un Testigo de Jehova ser amigos y tener amistades con personas fuera de su religion?

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