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70wksfyrs

ILT,

Good idea, but a bit much in my view.

Leavingwt-spot onI agree

suavojr

Ilovettatt

Please send me the file. Are you planning on adding all the quotes with literature dates?

Terry

As I recall, the first instance of a printed reference to Romans 13.1 as Jehovah and Jesus was in 1929. Rutherford pulled it out of his own behind.

Rutherford had a genuine fondness for alcohol and needed a way around the illegality of buying and consuming it during PROHIBITION ERA. Being a man

with a legal mind he figured out a reasoning process that would allow him to do so.

(“God never authorized a prohibition or any other sumptuary law to control the consciences or actions of others.” w29 p.121)

Prohibition wasn't ended until 1933.

“The instruction of the thirteenth chapter of Romans has long been misapplied. The improper application has really been the basis for the false doctrine of the “divine right of kings” or rulers to rule and oppress the people. The apostle is, in substance, telling the members of the church that they should always be obedient to God, and that the motive for such obedience must be love for God and a delight in doing’ his will.” Watchtower 1929 Jun 1 p.163

“Both of these scriptures have reference to the government, order and discipline in the organization of the Lord. Applying these words to earthly governments has been misleading and wrongful so far as Christians are concerned.” Watchtower 1929 Jun 15 p.183

IS OUR MESSAGE DIFFERENT FROM JESUS' MESSAGE?

YES - Benefit From Theocratic Ministry School Education p.279 para.2

"Note, however, that the message that Jesus said would be proclaimed in our day goes beyond what his followers preached in the first century."

NO - Galatians 1:8 "However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declared to you as good news, let him be accursed."

WORSHIPPING JESUS?
Up to 1954 "YES" -
"Jehovah God commands all to worship Christ Jesus because Christ Jesus is the express image of his Father, Jehovah, and because he is the Executive Officer of Jehovah always carrying out Jehovah’s purpose (Heb.:3–6)."
-- Watchtower 1939 Nov 15 p.339.

In 1945 Knorr amended the Watchtower Charter. Included within the new Charter is the statement that the purpose of the Watchtower Society is to promote the worship of Jehovah and Jesus. This charter is a legal document that continues to be the Watchtower Charter to this day.

From 1954 "NO" -
WT 1954 Jan 1 p.31 Questions from readers: "Should we worship Jesus?"—G. B., Ethiopia.
...the answer to the above question must be that no distinct worship is to be rendered to Jesus Christ now glorified in heaven. Our worship is to go to Jehovah God.

ORGANIZATION - ITS IMPORTANCE
1893 - No organization today. WT 1893 p.266
1894 - Not part of the Lord's plan. WT 12/1/1894 p. 384
1895 - Beware of organization. WT 9-15-1895 p.216
1955 - Respect the organization. Qualified to be Ministers, 1955, p.380
1957 - Obedience to organization. WT 5/1/57 p.274
1972 - Submit to headship. (Governing Body) WT 12-15-72 p.755
1983 - Essential part of the Lord's plan. WT 2/15/83 p.12

2012 - Bible points to organized worship as the kind acceptable to God. Awake! 2012 Sept. p.21

DISFELLOWSHIPPING IS LED BY HOLY SPIRIT

It Is Unscriptural! -- w47 1/8 p.27 Are You Also Excommunicated?

NO -- w59 3/15 p. 179 par. 26 Helpers Toward Walking Wisely

YES -- w61 7/15 p. 435 par. 19 Become Activated by the Spirit of Jehovah

YES -- Paradise Restored (1972) chap. 20 p. 353 par. 21 A "Third Part" Preserved in a Purged Land

YES -- w88 9/1 p. 16 par. 12 Stand Firm Against Satan’s Machinations

NO -- w89 9/15 p. 18 Elders—Treat God’s Flock With Tenderness!

YES -- Shepherd the Flock of God (2012)

DISFELLOWSHIPING ANNOUNCEMENT SHOULD INCLUDE SIN DETAILS

YES - w54 10/1 p. 595 par. 17 Christians Live the Truth

NO - w96 1/15 p. 19 par. 17 Jehovah’s Sheep Need Tender Care

WILL THE MEN OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH BE RESURRECTED?
1879 YES WT July, 1879 p.8
1952 NO WT 6/1/52 p.338
1965 YES WT 8/1/65 p.479

1967 NO WT 1/7/67 p.409

1974 YES Awake! 8/10/74 p.20

1988 NO WT 8/1/88 p.31
1988 YES You Can Live Forever... p.179 (Old Edition)
1988 NO You Can Live Forever... p.179 (New Edition)
1988 YES Insight On The Scriptures, Vol.2, p.985
1988 NO Revelation - Its Grand Climax p.273

BLACK PEOPLE ARE FROM THE CURSE OF NOAH'S TIME

YES - Golden Age, July 24th 1929:

NO - g75 10/8 p. 11 A Book of Myths or a Misrepresented Guide?

The man Noah pronounced a prophetic curse on his grandson Canaan, but no divine curse was ever pronounced upon the black race.

NO -w53 8/1 p. 478 Questions From Readers

Incidentally, when some try to say this curse caused some men to be black-skinned they show ignorance of the Bible record, for colored peoples did not descend from the cursed Canaan.

ADVICE ON DISEASE, APPENDICITIS, CANCER, ETC.

-- Watchtower Jan 15 1912 (reprints p.4963)

It is known that only about three out of every one hundred operated upon for appendicitis really have a diseased appendix needing removal. We give below a simple cure for appendicitis symptoms. The pain in the appendix region is caused by the biting of worms near the junction of the transverse colon with the small intestines, low down on the right side of the abdomen. This remedy is recommended also for typhoid fever, which is also a worm disease. The medicine is Santonine dose, 3 grains, an hour before breakfast; repeated for four mornings, or until all the symptoms disappear. Then one dose per month for three months to eradicate all germs.

-- Watchtower 1913 July 1 p. 200 A Cure for Surface Cancer

We have recently learned of a very effective and simple remedy for cancers which show themselves on the surface of the body. The recipe has come to us free and we are willing to communicate the formula, but only to those who are troubled with surface cancers and who will write to us directly, stating particulars.

-- The Golden Age 1919 November 26 p.153

Even years ago it was known by some people that the use of pacifiers (dummies) by babies is one of the chief causes of diseased and enlarged tonsils and adenoid growths, which results from the suction.

-- The Golden Age, Jan. 16, 1924, p. 250

It has never been proven that a single disease is due to germs.

-- The Golden Age, April 22, 1925, p. 454

I HAVE named this new discovery, which I believe will be epochal in the history of the treatment of disease, and which I am exclusively announcing in THE GOLDEN AGE prior to its general publication elsewhere, The Electronic Radio Biola, which means life renewed by radio waves or electrons. The Biola automatically diagnoses and treats diseases by the use of the electronic vibrations. The diagnosis is 100 percent correct, rendering better service in this respect than the most experienced diagnostician. This is a great step forward, marking the Biola as the most valuable treatment apparatus obtainable today, and well worthy of notice in the columns of a magazine like THE GOLDEN AGE...

-- The Golden Age 1926 Apr 7 p.438}

Tonsillectomy is called a minor operation. If so, getting well is a double major. If any overzealous doctor condemns your tonsils go and commit suicide with a case-knife. It's cheaper and less painful.

-- The Golden Age, Nov. 28, 1928, p. 133

All human ailments have their start in the intestines.

-- The Golden Age 1929 November 12 p. 107

If the organs [of your body] are diseased, heal them by correcting your diet. Avoid the use of aluminum cooking utensils and alum baking powders as they are injurious to your health, poisoning your blood stream... Sleep on the right side or flat on your back, with the head toward the north so as to get benefit of the earth's magnetic currents. Avoid serum inoculations as they pollute the blood stream with their filthy pus.... Stop chewing gum, as you need the saliva for your food.

-- The Golden Age 1933 September 13 p.777

The earlier in the forenoon you take the sun bath, the greater will be the beneficial effect, because you get more of the ultra-violet rays, which are healing.

-- Golden Age 1931/1934 December 19 p.187

Appendicitis: Take one ounce each of elder blossom, peppermint and yarrow and simmer in three pints of water. Take a wineglassful every fifteen minutes. Do not be afraid of the perspiration caused, or if you vomit.

-- The Golden Age, July 5, 1935, p. 632

HOW many people know, I wonder, of the curative properties of olive oil. The word "cure" is a strong term.... I personally know of more than one being relieved of liver trouble, and even cured of gall stones, by the use of olive oil.... A friend who for years has suffered pain in the region of the appendix was entirely relieved by the oil treatments.

-- The Golden Age 1936 September 23 p.828

Do not use X-Rays... they are destructive and sure to harm the grandchildren of those exposed to them.

-- Watchtower 1952 February 1 pp.95-6 Questions from Readers

For the sake of the record, let us say that we are not medical advisers.

We are not professionally trained doctors, and do not advise on health matters except as they may involve Scriptural issues, such as in the case of blood transfusions.

(Note: And even that advice changes.)

DANIELS IMAGE - 10 TOES
w59 5/15 p.313 ar.36 (10 Toes HAS a meaning)

"The number ten being a Biblical number symbolizing earthly completeness, the ten toes picture all such coexisting powers and governments."

w78 6/15 p.13 Human Governments Crushed by God’s Kingdom (10 Toes has NO meaning)

"There does not appear to be any prophetic significance to the image’s having ten toes. This is a natural human feature, just as the image has two arms, two legs, and so forth."

w85 7/1 p.31 Questions From Readers (10 Toes HAS a meaning)

"Various views have been expressed about the ten "toes." But since "ten" is often used in the Bible to signify completeness as to things on earth, the ten "toes" appear logically to represent the entire global system of rulership at the culmination of the days"

w12 6/15 p.14 Jehovah Reveals What "Must Shortly Take Place" (10 Toes has NO meaning)

Para 11. "when describing the image, Daniel does not mention the number of toes. Therefore, the number seems no more significant than the fact that the image had multiple arms, hands, fingers, legs, and feet."

THE REVELATION NAMES "APOLLYON" AND "ABADDON"
Refers to Satan - The Finished Mystery, p.159
Refers to Jesus Christ - Then Is Finished the Mystery of God, p.232

SEPARATING OF THE SHEEP AND THE GOATS (Matt 25:31-46)

Prior to 1923: Separating the sheep from the goats is a future event taking place after the tribulation.
1923-1995: The separating of the sheep and the goats began in 1914 and is currently taking place.
1995-current: Separating the sheep from the goats is a future event taking place after the tribulation.

WHO IS TO BLAME FOR DOMESTIC ABUSE?

w63 9/15 p. 571 When Marriage Ties Are at the Breaking Point - The Abused

The Christian may find that there are things she can do to avoid outbursts of anger on the part of her mate, thus making the situation endurable.

w10 6/15 p. 30 Coping With a Spouse’s Betrayal - The Abuser

If a marriage mate establishes a record of abusive speech or actions, it is the guilty party who must answer to Jehovah. Jehovah condemns violence and abusive speech, so there is never any legitimate reason for treating a mate with such a gross lack of love and respect

w12 2/15 p. 29 par. 12 Happiness Is Possible in a Divided Household - The Abused

The night before, Steve had hit me as I had tried to prove a point, and I was feeling sad and sorry for myself... Realizing that I needed to adjust my thinking, I prayed to Jehovah to help me be more loving toward Steve

Awake! 4/13 p. 9 - The Abuser

They erroneously believe that they [the abused] are to blame.

ASKING FOR DONATIONS

*** km 12/06 p. 5 Question Box ***

The second issue of the Watch Tower, August 1879, said this about our refusal to imitate the churches and solicit funds: "Zion's Watch Tower has, we believe JEHOVAH for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support. When He who says: 'All the gold and silver of the mountains are mine,' fails to provide necessary funds, we will understand it to be time to suspend the publication."

*** WT Nov 2012 p.8-9. based on Galatians 2:10 "Only we should keep the poor in mind."

Box: "How some choose to contribute to the worldwide work":

· OUTRIGHT DONATIONS
· CONDITIONAL DONATION ARRANGEMENT
· CHARITABLE PLANNING
· Insurance
· Bank Accounts
· Stocks and Bonds
· Real Estate
· Gift Annuity
· Wills and Trusts

and a reference to the publication Charitable Planning to Benefit Kingdom Service Worldwide

DIVORCE ALLOWED FOR HOMOSEXUALITY/BESTIALITY?

1956 - No : WT56 10/1 p.591 par.20

"Sodomy (the unnatural intercourse of one male with another male as with a female), lesbianism (the homosexual relations between women), and bestiality (the unnatural sexual relations by man or woman with an animal) are not Scriptural grounds for divorce."

1972 - No : WT72 1/1 p.32

"While both homosexuality and bestiality are disgusting perversions, in the case of neither one is the marriage tie broken. It is broken only by acts that make an individual "one flesh" with a person of the opposite sex other than his or her legal marriage mate."

1972 - YES : w72 12/15 p. 767 Questions From Readers

"Does this mean that unnatural and perverted sexual relations such as those engaged in by homosexuals are included in the meaning of this term used by the apostle in recording Jesus’ words? Yes, that is the case... This clearly marks a correction in the view expressed on previous occasions in the columns of this magazine."

1983 - YES : WT83 3/15 p.30

So, then, "fornication" in the broad sense, and as used at Matthew 5:32 and 19:9, evidently refers to a broad range of unlawful or illicit sex relations outside marriage. Porneia involves the grossly immoral use of the genital organ(s) of at least one human (whether in a natural or a perverted way); also, there must have been another party to the immorality—a human of either sex, or a beast."

DIVORCE ALLOWED FOR PORNEIA BETWEEN MARRIAGE MATES?

YES - w74 11/15 p. 704 Questions From Readers

YES - Both can be disfellowshipped - w74 11/15 p. 704 Questions From Readers

YES - But no longer a disfellowshipping offense - w78 2/15 p. 30 Questions From Readers

YES - w78 2/15 pp. 31-32 Questions From Readers

NO - w83 3/15 p. 31 Honor Godly Marriage!

No-one else's business! - w83 3/15 p. 31 Honor Godly Marriage!

WHO CAN COUNT TIME ON A FAMILY BIBLE STUDY?

One Parent - km 11/03 p. 3 Question Box

Both Parents - km 9/08 p. 3 Question Box

WHO'S ORGANIZATION?

*** w50 7/1 p. 204 Steps Toward Life ***

Fleeing from Satan’s organization and seeking refuge under Christ’s organization means that such a one acknowledges the Lord Jesus Christ and asks Christ to take him in.

*** w50 10/15 p. 382 "Be Fruitful, Multiply, Fill the Earth" ***

And what is that provision? It is God’s organization...

*** w52 4/15 p. 250 par. 7 Aids for Understanding Prophecy ***

Finally, in Revelation 7:4-8 there are listed the twelve tribes of spiritual Israel which comprise Christ’s theocratic kingdom organization.

*** w52 3/1 p. 143 par. 20 Propriety of Disfellowshiping ***

there is no reason that he should be overly sad thinking that he could never get into God’s organization again

*** w58 7/15 p. 445 par. 16 Beware that You Do Not Lose Your Place! ***

your proper place is—under Christ’s easy yoke of service, pulling with him and his organization

*** w59 8/15 p. 486 The Festival of Freedom ***

Christ’s blood does not mean deliverance to unbelievers outside God’s organization

ADAM'S SKIN COLOUR

He was Black - The Golden Age, November 28, 1928, pages 157, 158

He was red / We don't know -w76 4/15 p. 255 Questions From Readers

"Consequently, Adam’s skin may have been reddish, or it may not have been. Since the basic relationship between adam (Adam, man) and adamah (ground) at Genesis 2:7 stressed that Adam was an earthling, from the ground, his skin color could have been any of the various hues we find today among peoples earth wide."

JOHANNES GREBER (SPIRITUALIST) IS A QUOTABLE SOURCE FOR THE WTBTS

NO - w55 10/1 p. 603 par. 33 Part 3—What Do the Scriptures Say About "Survival After Death"?

NO - w56 2/15 p. 110 par. 10 Triumphing over Wicked Spirit Forces

YES - w62 9/15 p. 554 par. 5 "The Word"—Who Is He? According to John

YES - w75 10/15 p. 640 Questions From Readers

YES - w76 4/15 p. 231 Insight on the News

NO - w83 4/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers

OK TO RE-USE RELIGIOUS BUILDINGS FOR K.HALLS?

YES: -- w02 10/15 p. 27 Questions From Readers

Would it be a form of interfaith to purchase a building from another religious group and convert it into a Kingdom Hall?

[Picture on page 27]This building, which was a synagogue, was purchased and renovated into a Kingdom Hall

NO: -- w99 3/15 p. 24 Building on Pagan Foundation

AMONG the many impressive monuments that are visited by tourists to Rome, Italy, is the Pantheon. The Pantheon was originally a pagan temple, a "place for all gods," which is the meaning of the original Greek word. Today, it is still considered a Roman Catholic church.

It ought to be obvious, however, that changing the dedication of a temple or the name of a celebration is not sufficient to transform the ‘worship of devils into the service of the true God.’ "What agreement does God’s temple have with idols?" asked the apostle Paul. "‘Get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’

YES: -- g96 9/8 p. 31 Why the Chapels Are Closing

The list serves as an epitome of the collapse of religion’s influence, not only in Wales but in many parts of Europe. Sixty-eight chapels were listed as "now demolished." One that was not listed, in Penygraig, was converted many years ago into a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses for the flourishing Rhondda Congregation.

THE CORRECT VIEW OF ELABORATE PLACES OF WORSHIP

BAD - w53 5/1 p. 260 Why Maturity Is Lacking

BAD - w67 4/15 p. 245 The Most Urgent Warning Ever Given

BAD - g70 5/22 p. 21 Eye-catching Architecture—Ancient and Modern

BAD - w82 9/15 p. 19 par. 7 High Time to Flee!

GOOD - g85 10/22 A Historic Landmark Becomes an Assembly Hall for Jehovah’s Witnesses

GOOD - g85 10/22 p. 25 A Historic Landmark Becomes an Assembly Hall for Jehovah’s Witnesses

GOOD - g85 10/22 p. 27 A Historic Landmark Becomes an Assembly Hall for Jehovah’s Witnesses

Not only has its former glory been restored but it has been enhanced. Its greatest function now will be its use to reflect the glory of the Sovereign Lord and Creator of the universe, Jehovah God.

GOOD - yb87 p. 3 1987 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses

GOOD - w87 12/1 p. 22 Graduation of the 83rd Gilead Class Truly a Festive Occasion

BAD - w88 4/1 p. 16 par. 5 Christendom Exposed as the Promoter of False Worship

They love to exalt their cathedrals, basilicas, temples, and churches, boasting about their antiquity and their architecture, as if these gave them some special standing with God. They even say that their religious edifices were built ‘to the glory of God.’

BAD - g01 6/8 p. 15 Cathedrals—Monuments to God or Men?

BAD - g02 2/8 p. 30 From Our Readers

INDEPENDENT THINKING

Is Bad - w52 8/15 p. 501 Individual Bible study, certainly! Independent Bible study, beware!
Is Good - w57 8/1 p.469 par.7 "Moreover, people today are developing an aversion to thinking.

Is Good - w58 8/1 p.460 "Irish people do very little independent thinking. They are victims of the clergy and fear"

Is Bad - w60 2/15 p.106 par.6 "it follows that one should reject the goal of independent thinking"

Is Good - w72 3/15 P.170 par.7

Is Bad - w77 10/1 p.605

Is Good - Awake! 78 8/22 p.4

Is Bad - w79 2/15 p.20 par.

Is Good - Awake! 80 1/8 p.13

Is Bad - w83 p.27 section heading "Fight Against Independent Thinking" par.22 says it's "demonic"

Is Good - KM 3/95 p.6 par.17 "it is highly valuable to learn how to think. "

Is Bad - w98 5/15 p.26

Is Good - Awake! 99 1/8 p.11

Is Bad - w06 7/15 P.22 Par.14 "some fall into the trap of independent thinking"

Is Bad - w11 7/15 p. 28 par. 17

w01 8/1 p. 14 par. 8 goes so far as to say that you can't even harbour private doubts:

SHOULD WE EXAMINE OUR BELIEFS?

YES - Millions now living will Never Die (1920) page 13

YES - w54 4/15 p. 230 How God Gives Faith

YES - Watchtower, May 1, 1958 p.261; Is Your Religion the Right One? " It is important...that you "keep testing whether you are in the faith," as Paul declared. Keep checking to see whether the things you believe are in keeping with God's Word. But the question is, Are you willing to put your religion through such a test? There is nothing to fear, because if you have the right religion you can only be reassured by the examination. And if what you believe is not in keeping with the Bible, then you should welcome the truth, because it leads to light and life."

YES - w64 4/1 p. 195

YES -The Truth that Leads to Eternal Life, Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society, 1968, p. 13

YES - Awake 73 10/22 p. 6 Examine the Evidence

YES - g84 8/22 p. 28 From Our Readers

NO - w86 3/15 p. 12 par. 7 'Do Not Be Quickly Shaken From Your Reason'

You may even reason: 'It won’t affect me; I’m too strong in the truth. And, besides, if we have the truth, we have nothing to fear. The truth will stand the test.' In thinking this way, some have fed their minds upon apostate reasoning and have fallen prey to serious questioning and doubt.

YES - w89 1/15 p. 6 Are You Open to New Ideas?

YES - w91 4/8 p.23

YES - w01 4/15 p. 21

YES - w02 4/1 p. 3 Should Faith Be Based on Reason?

YES - Watchtower, February 1, 2003, p.32

YES - Awake 9/06 p. 3 Whom Should You Believe?

NO - km 9/07 p.3

That'll do for now.

Splash

Terry

Truth is like those old-fashioned Mood Rings.

notjustyet

Marked,..

Wow, splash,..

suavojr

Nice job splash!

ILoveTTATT

WOOOOW Splash!!

This is AMAZING!!

Thanks!!

ABibleStudent

Hi ILoveTTATT, I feel that you would be able to get across how frequently the WTBTS changes its doctrines by making a time-line like paleontologist use to show human/life development on earth. Most people relate better to pictures/graphics (i.e., 1 picture is worth a thousand words). A single-page stating what the WTBTS promoted in the beginning and then on the back a time-line of when doctrines changed in 5 or 10 year segments, which ever is less confusing and shows how frequently WTBTS's doctrine changes.

I wish I could recommend software to help you, but I can't. Your best solution might be publishing software or Microsoft Word.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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