Throwing a bone to my fellow Jehovah's Witnesses needing help defending the teaching God picked the Watchtower back in 1919. Just trying to make your life easier with a simple explanation, no more complex doctrines, ok.
Absolute Proof the Watchtower and Governing Body are from God!
by AuntConnie 20 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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J. Hofer
not really a paradox but a tautology / circular reasoning.
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caliber
they celebrated some pagan holidays, such as Christmas, they used the symbol of the cross as a sign of Christian devotion, the name of Jehovah they had in the background, and organizationally they continued to practice the democratic style of local congregational government. So Jesus sends them off into a Babylonian-like captivity for year. This is why the leadership was sent to prison. It wasn't Satan. It was Jesus... he was "refining" them. They emerge in 1919 all cleansed and ready to serve! Well, not really cleansed... .. they still used the cross and celebrated Christmas into the late 1920s....
Some will say yes but they had done away with major false doctrine hellfire , trinity, eternal soul . but this was already done under Russel who
now is not considered part of the FDS. So what new truths did the FDS bring to the table as an indication of God's spirit and blessing ?
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AuntConnie
Silly brother, no JW is going to know the difference between a Paradox and Tautology will they? Brother J. Hofer, we are taught to love our eisegesis and hate the exegesis because New Light demands that!
Caliber, how come the Watchtower and Governing Body kept us from knowing about Russell’s love of Pyramid-ology and all the dark pagan and occult methods employed to find the End?
Now with the Internet, no more hiding their piles of dung in ancient archieves and books. They are the "Dogs" St. Peter spoke of, and like good little dogs these leaders of the Watchtower left their shit for everyone to step on. Witnesses like me were too dumb, for decades we refused to stop and smell the shit, they passed off as Manna! If only we had did some research instead of listening to their fearful crying to avoid "Apostate Literature" and "Higher Education College" are lives would not have been robbed by those hucksters, Lord Jesus Please Forgive us for sinning!
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rmt1
Flow chart showing the wheels within wheels of Jehovah's ever-onward moving chariot. Of course this dollar engine is not 100% efficient. During its cycle to pull in dollars from its rank and file and push those dollars to real estate and stock market investments and pedophile lawsuits, it also causes many more dollars to be burned up in massive overheads, inefficiencies, opportunity costs like field service, gasoline, meals, meeting nights, weekend mornings, driving to conventions, hotel costs, etc, compounded by attaining on average little competitive earning power. A simpler solution would be to just tithe at 10% and give up mandatory field service, mandatory meetings, mandatory conventions.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/carnot.html
Does anyone have a good metric for how much $$ / %monthly income JWs lose in these overheads and inefficiencies? I bet they'd agree to a tithe.
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caliber
Caliber, how come the Watchtower and Governing Body kept us from knowing about Russell’s love of Pyramid-ology and all the dark pagan and occult methods employed to find the End?
Well for sure now they have washed their hands of Russel he is just a fore-runner like John the Baptist
so the little problem of the internet is no longer an issue.. The FDS doesn't come on the scene until 1919
Russel is dead Halloween night of 1916
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clarity
"The FDS doesn't come on the scence until 1919"
Ya but the GB didn't come on the scene until 1970's!!!!!!!!!!
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caliber
The FDS doesn't come on the scene until 1919"
Ya but the GB didn't come on the scene until 1970's!!!!!!!!!!
So true... so many holes, so many holes
It's a minefield of dangerous gaps and holes when you take off the blindfold
There was a board of directors before 1971 but I believe some have said some of these weren't of the anointed even
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AuntConnie
The July 15th, 2013 "Study Edition" is clear we are not the property of the "Faithful Slave" until Jesus Christ returns in 2525 or 3535 or 4545?
In the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
In the year 3535Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took todayIn the year 4545
You ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at youIn the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for youIn the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tubeIn the year 7510
If God's a-coming, He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
"Guess it's time for the Judgement Day"In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say, "I'm pleased where man has been"
Or tear it down, and start againIn the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothingNow it's been ten thousand years, man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew, now man's reign is through
But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday" -
AuntConnie
The July 15th, 2013 "Study Edition" is clear we are not the property of the "Faithful Slave" until Jesus Christ returns in 2525 or 3535 or 4545? So who do we belong to, if we are not the Slave's? The writers of the Watchtower have put this paradox before everyone who read that magazine. According to our past books and magazines, we should not follow the Slave because Jesus Christ has not approved or sanatized them. Was it the Truth Book that said "Jehovah's Witnesses follow the Faithful Slave because Jesus Christ inspected them and found them worthy to watch and feed them"? The Slave is not identified, the Evil Slave has not been cleansed from the Master's giant palace, so who or what we believe because our lives are at stake. JWs are going to be just like the "goats" in Jesus Parable, "lord lord, did we not do great works in your name?"
Zager and Evans Song
In the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
In the year 3535Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took todayIn the year 4545
You ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at youIn the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for youIn the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tubeIn the year 7510
If God's a-coming, He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
"Guess it's time for the Judgement Day"In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say, "I'm pleased where man has been"
Or tear it down, and start againIn the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothingNow it's been ten thousand years, man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew, now man's reign is through
But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday"