"They listened and obeyed"

by zound 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • zound
    zound

    New childrens activity on jw.org - "They Listened and Obeyed"

    Am I too skeptical or is there an implication that those who are disobedient are likened to lepers?

    http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/family-worship-projects/they-listened-obeyed/

  • BackseatDevil
    BackseatDevil

    I would like to make it perfectly clear that my computer is allergic to jw.org website. I will never click on a link going there, I don't want to know what they are presenting. In fact I try my best not to get any NEW JW information caught in the tubes of the internet or in my head.

    With the 'demonic' fear they have toward non-JW religious books of the world is exactly how I treat information coming from them.

    Just... and FYI about me personally. :-)

  • konceptual99
    konceptual99

    The one interesting thing is that clicking on links to jw.org from here could be used to potentially identify you by the WTS.

    The web server request logs show the source site so the jw.org webmasters can identify every click through from here to jw.org. They also know the IP address of the client browser (i.e. your IP address).

    Now it wouldn't take a genius to compare those IP addresses with ones that are related to page requests that did not come from this site. This would include those requests related to a jw.org user who has logged in. The user account does include information that could be used to identify a user, especially if this user is an elder with additional access rights to jw.org.

    This process is not 100% foolproof. There is every chance that if there has been some time between visits to jw.org, and certainly if you have rebooted your router, then your public IP will have changed so the two visits could not be linked. If you are using the internet in a public place then your IP address may have been used by someone else who just happened to go onto jw.org. Also given that multiple users in a house will share the same public IP address there is no real way of proving that the two requests came from the same person.

    I am not given to paranoia or conspiricy theories but if you are concerned about any risk to your identity being exposed then it is safest not to click through. Just cut'n'paste the link into another tab. It may be that the WTS privacy policies mean they would not do this or use the data in a proactive way but better to be safe than sorry.

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    This organization is getting increasingly weirder by the day!

    I fear for my children.

  • Faithful Witness
    Faithful Witness

    I never thought of this. I'm sure I've been flagged multiple times, if they are keeping any records. I click to their site from a few different "unapproved" websites.

    The one interesting thing is that clicking on links to jw.org from here could be used to potentially identify you by the WTS.

  • Julia Orwell
    Julia Orwell

    More crap to scare the kids into obedience.

  • chrisuk
    chrisuk

    Just use tor if you don't want to be tracked.

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    Until I hear the first reliable report of elders approaching someone with printouts of their Internet activity and IP addresses, I'm going to say not to worry about that at all. But certainly it's not a bad precaution to making an account on jw.org for any reason if you are not being a good Witness (and if you are, why are you reading this?).

  • tiki
    tiki

    I'm with backseatdevil on this one. But I will say that it seems a bit farfetched that they'd be so paranoid they'd be following through and trying to identify mentally diseased ones....

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    Dammit. I meant to say "it's not a bad precaution to avoid making an account on jw.org". Second time I've done that recently.

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