Jehovah only uses honest mean in directing his flock... except that one guy

by confusedandalone 15 Replies latest jw experiences

  • confusedandalone
    confusedandalone

    Yesterday in yet another attempt to get me back to Jehovah's Organization of faithful men, we began to argue. When I asked her how she could possibly trust the men leading this organization who have lied over and over again about everything we believe. She literally scream ed at me and said, "The men Jehvoah uses in this organization to take the lead are standup men who always have the best intentions for the flock."

    SO I had to remind her about a certain brother and experience that I think may be useful to some of you brothers here and lurkers.

    Picture this, the very early 70's, and a faithful JW with a wife and 2 kids. Living in the deep south who just so happens to be black. Of course it is hard for this family head to find a job that would provide him with enough money to take care of his family. He even worked 16 hour days at 2 jobs that paid under the table so that he could be paid less than minimum wage... He makes it known within the congregation that he was looking for more permanent work but no one had any offerings. This obviously put great strain on this family head. Then one day he gets a call from a brother that says, "Hey if you need work me and another brother have started a "cleaning" business and we are looking for a large number of brothers to be a part of it.

    You will have to leave your family for a couple weeks at a time, but we will send your pay back to your family so that things are taken care of at home, and we will provide you all with food and shelter as we travel from place to place."

    Sounds awesome right!!!! So he jusmps at the chance, as well as about 20 other brothers in the local congos. THese brothers travel up and down the eastern seaboard cvcleaning supermarkets and movie theaters and warehouses etc.... seems great. Then it is time to get paid, and the story takes a vicious turn. My mother after 2 weeks calls and says that the broothers paid the rent at the some, and utilities as well as brought some food by - but no real "PAY" was given to them. OF course my father wants to know why, they had an excuse as to why this happened, it will be cleared up later. As you can imagine it never gets cleared up. For the next few months these 2 owners one of which is an ELDER the other a MS continue with these practices. THe brothers also realize something weird. The two owners put them in ratty motels 4 to a room while these tweo men have grand Hotel rooms in beautiful hotels a couple miles away... These men also provide food to these men, buy paying for enormous pots of spaghetti for them but for themselves they are eating the finest foods while running around with clients. THey also buy new suits and shoes for themselves as they travel while these men wear the same tattered clothes that they brought with them.

    You would think men could only take so much of theis treatment but since they are "BROTHERS" they endure. Well after another month or so, one of the unstable brothers gets a call from his wife and she tells him they have no money or food and they have no idea what they are going to do. Had this been any of these other brothers this would probably have been met with a mere, "Wait on Jehovah"... the problem is that this one particular brother was a little different. You see, this brother was a former GREEN BERET in the Army. He was a little "weird" at times. He had a bad temper ONCE HE GOT PUSHED to the edge. Apparently this call from his wife pushed him to that edge. He found out what hotel they were staying at and walked down there and demanded his money... ALL OF IT right then and there or no one would leave that room. All the while laughing and twitching. All of a sudden the money that was supposedly "tied up" was flowing freely!!! THe man got paid, got to a bus station and left!

    The others dealt with it for a while longer and many left. THe problem is the damage had been done to many families and they were encouraged to write it off and that Jehovah would take care of the matter.

    So now you are no doubt wondering, "What happened to the brothers who were defrauding the others????" Obviously JEHOVAH made sure that they received some form of judicial reprimand right? right? right? FOr the love of GOD he let PAul kill Annanias and Sappphira for far less. Look at what happened to Nabal? Surely, the upright GOD of the bible made these men atleadt pay these men.

    Well no, as a matter of fact no more than just 2 years after all this transpired the MS was an elder, BUT HERE IS THE KICKER!!!! ARE YOU READY??? REALLY I HOPE YOU ARE READY FOR THIS? THIS DRAMATIC CAPITAL LETTTER BUILDUP IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WORTH IT!!! BELIEVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU WILL PROBABLY SHIT YOUR PANTS WITH ANGER!!!!

    Seriously its that good!

    Anyway the brother who was a married eldered who was a 50% party to this horrible scheme WENT INTO THE CIRCUIT WORK! I Believe at this time he is a District Overseer(I know he is atleast a C.O. still because in the 90's we ran into this jackwagon at a District Convention and he made a smart remark about my father and my super righteous brother acted like he wanted to go apeshit). As I typed this I search for his name on this forum and yup I saw it mentioned moer than a few times...

    Anyway after reminder her of this she says, "No doubt Jehovah forgave him so how can I not forgive him. Jehovah must have saw something in him that we could not see." I think she is right, he is the same type of fraudster tha tthe big 8 are. They take advantage of you in the name of Jehovah and dare you to do anything about it.

    As you can imagine the phone call ended in her hanging up the phone on me and telling me she will pray for me until they official catch up to me and remove me from the flock.

    THANKS MA!!!

  • nonjwspouse
    nonjwspouse

    Emotion, not facts, pure perscribed, directed emotion is what those loyal JWs listen to.

    The most frustrating thing EVER

  • jookbeard
    jookbeard

    Russel

    Rutherfraud

    Mad Freddie

    Greenleas

    Chitty

    Knorr

    Jaracz

    honest were they?

  • confusedandalone
    confusedandalone

    Rutherfraud, Mad Freddie - tooo funny.

    I remember also when Freddy was in the infirmary no more than a few months before he died my brother who was at Bethel at the time got us in to go to his room and see him along with a few others. I remember him talking but as a kid in the 8th grade I didn't really care what was happening. My mother was silent all the way home and somewhere in the silence she busts out with, "But in the twinkling of an eye...".

    Fruggin pathetic dreamchasers and men followers

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    Hello Confusedandalone:

    The nauseating story you told sounds like these poor brothers inadvertently accepted positions similar to indentured servants or migrant workers. Yep. That is what it sounds like to me, even if nobody said it in so many words.

    I am glad one of them had the balls to confront their "employers" and demand their money and get the hell out of there.

    I know certain JW females who reduced themselves to poverty and then accepted "positions" of doing menial and other housework for JWs. They often found out that the jobs entailed MUCH more. It makes me cringe to think how damaged I would have been if I followed in these women's footsteps and let this happen to me.

    Instead, I opted to stay with my full-time job and be criticized by all these busybodies.

    This is what happens when there are no boundaries. In other words, this is what happens in a cult.

  • confusedandalone
    confusedandalone

    @Longhairgal - I look back on our time as a young family in the "truth" and I noticed that the majority of the time we were taken advantage of by people who should have been looking out for us - but the people who struggle together TEND to help one another. Elders and CO and DO usually are the biggest asssholes imaginable.

    It brings to mind the words and actions of my then C.O. Brown Payne who is now a D.O.

    He came to our hall and he threw hints around that he WANTED a new coat. Not needed but wanted a new coat. So the Elders decided to use some of the congo funds to purchase this gift. They got him a nice winter coat and upon giving it to hiim he said he didn't want the coat because it was not leather... and he didn't like it.

    Had it been me I may have knocked out a few teeth. That congregation was in the heart of the ghetto and on top of that the people were so poor it was ridiculous. Yet these are the men in control

  • JakeM2012
    JakeM2012

    Confused, did he want a fur collar with the leather coat so he could look like snoopdog or a pimp?

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Yes, you can find other fraudsters by googling "Jehovah's Witness" and "fraud". The WTS claims the congregation remains clean of course, because as soon as these fellows are found out they are "no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses".

    After the fact.

    Clean

    Dirty

    Clean again.

  • FadeToBlack
    FadeToBlack

    I remember a situation in Orlando FL area many years ago. The CO was Lett (Peter, I believe). Great speaker. Needed a new car. What was offered wasn't good enough. He wanted a new Mercedes. He got it. Anf then, he promptly left the circuit work and was suddenly "Dr. Lett" - peddling vitamins and homeopathic treatments. Last thing I remember about him was a picture in the local paper being hauled away in handcuffs for practicing medicine without a license. Not sure what happened after that.

  • confusedandalone
    confusedandalone

    @Jake - I am not sure if he wanted the fur collar but he did end up getting money afterward and I am sure he did purchase one LOL.

    Funny enough he is now a D.O. - former military guy and he was one big "PAYNE" in the ass

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