Are Faith-based assertions falsifiable?

by braincleaned 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  tec

  This is maybe the first time I hear that animals are subject to sin. Interesting... but may I ask where you heard this?
  Because as far as I know, jesus did not come to save all nature from sin — just humankind, no?

  I do not mean to imply that it is the same, and I don't mean to sidetrack onto something else.

  I meant only that not everything in creation is from God, nor serves God's purpose. Creation is not as God created it to be, but became subject to the death and 'ground cursing' on account of man... who was meant to subdue it (govern, care for, husband - not dominate, break, hunt, kill, pollute, abuse, etc)

  Peace,

  tammy
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  Watkins

  Hi again BC! - do you think there's a difference between faith-based beliefs and beliefs based on particular religious views? What if a person isn't connected to any religion and so doesn't base their faith in God on religious doctrines or interpretations?

  It seems like most accusations of this sort are against religion, doctrines/interpretations... with which I totally agree. There's some weirder stuff than jws out there, and ALL of 'em claim to be the ONLY truth. And yet, they've all been proven false about something or other.

  I think faith is experience-based, or should be. It's not something you 'learn' by listening to others prattle on or by reading this book or that. No one's opinion, however briliantly it's expressed, trumps what someone else has experienced. I mean, you might throw out the accusation that a person's experience is due to whatever - a head injury, mental disease, stupidity - but to prove that belief in God(apart from whatever religion claims to 'know' about God) is false(falsifiable) would be difficult, wouldn't it? Especially if there is no head injury, mental disease or stupidity?

  Sure, A whole-helluva-LOT of things that religion teaches - like the Bible is the first and last word on every modern-day topic - can be proven false. So 'faith' in those things can not be justified - rationalised by those who believe them, but not justified by a truthful standard. But faith that's beyond the precepts of religion, faith that's based on experience and not mere 'head knowledge' - how can it be "falsifiable"?

  Watkins
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  Island Man

  On the whole subject of death and suffering among animals it is interesting to note that the bible says this:

  "But these, like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed, blaspheming about matters of which they are ignorant, will also be destroyed in their destruction" - 2 Peter 2:12

  Yes folks, the animal kingdom gives testimony to a loving God who lovingly created the animals to be caught and destroyed!
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  Island Man

  And let's not forget the centuries long holocaust of sheep slaughtered just to teach a lesson on sinfulness and the need for a future messiah to come and shed his blood for forgiveness of sin. Isn't God so loving and full of tender affection?