Why Eve sinned (WT 8/2013) (page 9)

braincleaned

I would love to get back in, but I am tired and have stuff to do.

To end this chapter (for me today), I would like to acknowledge that Eden does admit this is a hypothesis.

Based on that, we must treat it as such. What is important here, is to see if the scenario makes sense.
I don't think it does — but I would like to say more than just my opinion. So I'll be back tomorrow.
I probably need to read the thread again to properly lay out the propositions, and go from there...

Good night everyone! ;)

prologos

Eden a question: you said angels would learn bad from observing the pre-eden proto humans. were they bad? were the animalistic? were they voracious like animals?

Why do angels who are supposed to be higher than humans have to learn bad from animals? but

here where I am with your model:

If you account for the NEEDLESS suffering in nature/creation, and presuppose a loving God, he must have abrogated his duties and given creative powers to maligning spirit co-creators. Why would he do that?

just for fun? giving satan the power to wreak havoc in Job's household, killing innocents even?

May be the old nomads looked up from their chess games and spun a tale of heavenly conflict?

and we are still pondering the moves?

confusedandalone

" you said angels would learn bad from observing the pre-eden proto humans" Why would God create perfect angels without a sense of right and wrong??? It is similar to asking why the angels didn't have sense enough to think that the guy who created everything in the universe doesn't desewrve to rul eeverything to. Its not like anyone could be more powerful then him and take his throne LOL

prologos

caa, yeah, and that brings on the pkoney Souverainty issue that Wt writers like to play up.

Nobody can come close to the Creator of this immensity.

he did not walk in the garden invisibly.

confusedandalone

" Souverainty issue that Wt writers like to play up."

I guess the angels need 1000x1000 years to reach perfection and have common sense

cofty

do you even presume that, during the millions of years while the evolution of life took place, God was even paying the slightest attention to us? - EdenOne

You are effectively an atheist, congratulations.

You worship a god who behaves like a child who forgets to feed his hamster.

Get off your knees and reclaim your self-respect.

EdenOne

Cofty: You worship a god who behaves like a child who forgets to feed his hamster.

In my hypothetical scenario, God personally "turned his attention" to this planet only a little more than 6.000 years ago when he made Adam and Eve as the first Homo Sapiens gifted with a spiritual sonship towards him. From that point on, he's been actively involved in the human affairs. Now, what's 6.000 years in the grand scheme of things, when we talk, for example, about how old is the universe, the duration of the geological eras, or how old is life on earth? That's really a drop in the ocean.

In this particular scenario, you're adopting an attitude similar to that of a needy child who gets annoyed because his father doesn't give him the attention he thinks he deserves.

Eden

as your model shows?

Why Eve sinned (WT 8/2013)

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