No Holy Spirit, but 24 elders

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  • pixel
    pixel

    "It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today".

    w07 1/1 pp. 27-28 “The First Resurrection”—Now Under Way *** Now Under Way?

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    “From the time of the apostle John and on into the Lord’s day, anointed Christians were puzzled as to the identity of the great crowd. It is fitting, then, that one of the 24 elders, representing anointed ones already in heaven, should stir John’s thinking by raising a pertinent question. “And in response one of the elders said to me: ‘These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?’ So right away I said to him: ‘My lord, you are the one that knows.’” (Revelation 7:13, 14a) Yes, that elder could locate the answer and give it to John. This suggests that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today. For their part, those of the John class on earth got to learn the identity of the great crowd by closely observing what Jehovah was performing in their midst. They were quick to appreciate the dazzling flash of divine light that emblazoned the theocratic firmament in 1935, at Jehovah’s due time.”
    -Revelation: Its Grand Climax at Hand! p. 124-125

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    I just wanted to share one of the most bizarre teachings of the WT/FDS/GB. Why would you need the Holy Spirit if you have the 24? They don't need no Holy Spirit.

    Pixel.

  • KateWild
    KateWild

    Good one pixel LOL!

    So apparantley according to this, CT Russell told Rutherford, from heaven of course, to get all the men to shave their beards, off. Then in 1931 Rutherford was told to change the name from Bible Students to Jehovah's Witnesses.

    Now Knorr, Franz, Rutherford, and Russell are helping to direct things from heaven and telling the new GB they are doing well feeding the domestics and will be appointed over the belongings when Jesus returns, oh yeah for the third comming.

    Well done pixel, I enjoyed that

    Kate xx

  • pixel
    pixel

    Thanks KateW. Pretty bizarre.

  • J. Hofer
    J. Hofer

    it SEEMS that they MAY be, this SUGGESTS... ermagherd

  • tec
    tec

    Yeah, I picked up on that too, J. Hofer.

    (Also, annointed christian is redundant. A Christian... is annointed... with holy spirit. Though the word has come to mean anyone who is a member of the religion of christianity)

    Peace,

    tammy

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Just a brief segment of self supporting propaganda that the men of the WTS. have created around themselves.

    Part of the structuring of this organization is to establish power toward the leaders as well reconfirming that

    position unto themselves and it all can be propagated easily by their own literature proliferation.

    Such are the basic tenets of freedom of religion.

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    Weasel words. I never noticed them but now I certainly do now.

    Legal strategem. Deniability.

    We never predicted 1975.

  • The Searcher
    The Searcher

    Spiritism (communication with dead persons) is OK for GB, but not for anyone else!

    Deuteronomy 18:10-12 = waken up folks - anyone involved in such things is detestable!!!

  • notsurewheretogo
    notsurewheretogo

    Surely they mean the 24 elders are communicating to the FDS sorry I mean the GB via Holy Spirit...how else would they communicate?

  • Bobcat
    Bobcat

    For any interested, the ID of the 24 elders was discussed in this thread. It includes all the verses that mention these ones and a number of verses that may impact the understanding of who these are.

    Tec:

    Also, annointed christian is redundant. A Christian... is annointed... with holy spirit.

    Good point! A tautology.

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