by Dawn 24 Replies latest jw friends
The problem is, the WTS has brainwashed all the J'dubs into believing the 'world' is so bleak, when in fact it can be very exciting and fulfilling.
After breaking free from Watchtower indoctrination, you realize it's a mental prison. They keep you uneducated, relatively poor, depressed, and reliant on them. All cult tactics.
Dawn,
That is a very good analogy, I never thought about it in that way of an abusive relationship, but isn't that what it is though, an abusive relationship, interesting.
Seedy
MegaDude:
Hmmm... So maybe there is a God(ess) but we shouldn't be so organized...
b_ster
Bster,
In my opinion, organization is fine as long as you don't lose sight of your principles. If you're honest with yourself, the principles always come before the growth or the perpetuation of the organization, Christian or whatever religion. You could apply this to a lot more situations than just your religious affiliation or prior religious affiliation.
Dawn:
damn you, damn you......here I was, making my way thru "postville," determined not to post, especially while drinking wine, and I had to "backscroll" to your thread......my JW brother said the same thing to me a couple of weeks ago, "you don't leave with no where to go, nothing out there is any better." I don't really understand this logic, and I'm, quite frankly, surprized that this thread exists...It's weird, at least to me, that this argument is one that people even come up with.....I thought that my brother was the only one.(Reason for the sudden "backscroll") What I said to him, (though now I have to remember what MEGA said), is that when I was married to my previous husband and he did something that just blew me away, I just knew that I could not continue with him anymore....Once someone loses their trust in another, is there really any future together? Not for me, as I told my brother, I didn't know what I was going to do, the only thing I knew for sure was that I could not continue on with someone who had lied to me.....it's like "I have enough faith in myself to know that I'll be ok, and I'd rather be alone for the rest of my life than to spend it with a liar." It's so bizarre that people feel that they have to have a place to go before they can get out of a liar's house.....personally, I'd rather sleep in a park.....I'd go to a shelter, I'd do whatever I had to do in order to escape a liar......so, if these people, like some spoiled housewife (which I am now) need a place to go before they'll leave a liar, tell them to go within their own heart.......if that's not enough to convince them, nothing is......
Has anyone seen my shot glass?
I believe Peter's question was actually WHOM are we to go away to? Jesus had the sayings of everlasting life, not the Isrealites (an org). By following just 2 simple laws in life we don't need anything or anyone else. Especially not an organization, like Megadude pointed out.
j2bf
noIdea:
Let me pour.........
"Where else are you going to go?"
The scripture, of course, refers to leaving Jesus, not a publishing company.
The saying becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, because as witnesses buy into more and more Watchtower lifestyle requirements, their options become more and more limited.
My parents are the perfect example of this. They are 76 and 79 now and have no where to go. Unfortunately they also didn't get to actually experience life much. The Watchtower offered two people with anxiety problems similar to my own peace and security and they became addicted to the promise. Instead of getting the mental health assistance they needed to live a full life, they lived lives of despair and now those lives are almost over.
Joel
Joel, you are right of course, but this is a typical example of how the society have hi-jacked scripture in a way only they could do. They quote "Where else is there for you to go?" and apply it specifically with regard to the organisation.
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